Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

[Thomas Beierlein <tomjbe@gentoo.org>]

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:51:55 +0200
Tomá? Chvátal <scarabeus@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Thursday 14 of April 2011 13:32:04 Kfir Lavi wrote:
> > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the
> > written stuff.
> > 
> > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users do the same.
> > So do expect people rebooting the machine without checking what
> > your have wrote.
> > This can be a major headache if you have few systems that are doing
> > auto updates.
> > I would solve this issue by stopping the emerge and getting the
> > attention of the user.
> > If I don't get the attention of the user, no openrc will be
> > installed. It should be something like emerge -C ... 1 .2 3 4 5...
> > 
> > To conclude, you can't issue such a change without proper
> > confirmation from the user.
> > 
> This was discussed multiple times, news items are to be read.
> Users ignore elog informations/web announcements/... so it was agreed
> that news item is agressive enough to user so they must read it.
> If they don't do so it is just their fault.
> And no runtime changing for portage where it expect some input is
> seriously stupid idea, most of us script updates in batch and noone
> would actualy read it.
> 
> Never the less as I said we expect user to read that stuff and if he
> does not he is on his own due to his dumb approach.

Maybe we should underline our intention by having that policy
documented in the installation handbook. A good place may be section 2
"Working with
Gentoo" (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2).

At least all newbies will stumble upon it once.

Regards,
	Thomas.

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