From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PgIjg-0002Fc-QJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:17:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C438E0B9A; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5CEE0B6F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544EA1B41B2; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:16:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:17:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.37-rc5; KDE/4.5.2; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Dale References: <1295484635.2390.75.camel@raven.home.flameeyes.eu> <201101201832.49766.vapier@gentoo.org> <4D393B95.5090008@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D393B95.5090008@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart22343393.hDNPxDQVNe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201101211017.13767.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: cb3221ad39eb3af1ddedaab98492a026 --nextPart22343393.hDNPxDQVNe Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday, January 21, 2011 02:53:57 Dale wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday, January 20, 2011 14:47:24 Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 wrote: > >> Also "angry unhelpful tools"? You're putting words in my mail that > >> aren't there. I said infra _used_ to be against that; it was obvious > >> that knowing that I wouldn't just push the issue against their will. > >=20 > > no, you didnt. you said "the Infra team has been against this idea".=20 > > you didnt say anywhere that infra had changed their mind, and this > > statement made it sound like basically "screw infra, this is what QA > > says, and if infra doesnt like it they can figure something out on their > > own". >=20 > Actually, yea he did. In your quote of him, he said "has been'. Maybe > you misread it but that means they had a different view or opinion in > the past but that has changed. no, not really. "has been" is the present perfect continuous tense which=20 means he is describing something that has continued up to or through $now. = =20 without explicitly stating that infra has changed their minds, my assessmen= t=20 above stands. yes, this is a nuance that might be hard for non-native (and probably many= =20 native) english speakers to pick up, but that's why it's even more importan= t=20 for people to provide more supplementary details so that they arent=20 misconstrued. =2Dmike --nextPart22343393.hDNPxDQVNe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJNOaN5AAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBO+YQANzdBTIh7aQrc74J06j/0zcS bANk4rAaGZj1cOkydCiPIu/6ddKj5mvma4woxM92B2B2YSPz97+kK/khvHYRFGt2 xGhgVFCh0KcVcP4AuGBbJiPManD5cn5FVO8MHgfvzBV2/leU3xK0xGxTmnw9298O LhEUhngl49doV1CD5ajDcG9aZ/p7uJ1NN1Rz8GDBGDTEgG+8kSPEhDzXXfMVEq0T KBcvCNCsGSNyiKDWTAWGOW4PWpuTq0qz+67oXuE6yeJ41dgfKFDmb9OHeHfxMkBL 09RiaRxWpI9tefnqyNUnjqCV7Guq2J8BL06mvisKFuoo/cVdZbh8nUt3VJfzIv0g KV+GM+DoVDWVQerFsLclsCZNU5leVFAk2S2I9nQq+64b4aJSvqesFnstUYiCC7su 5iKC06g6r+uGLpNpLptPStx/rLBxbDfBMOEw5nfr0lW6pfXtOGrOuIvfSFcTZ7bc IjuObDMpVN+Ta1LPbxd0PFOa4EB7Xldu1xr1BZ/WqicipTRQ1z2/qq2HDYc+4hJj UbmUN8ipLJbleyxsMAROwqc94iCMlelG+yfpOFipUouiAqfXVuUkY2Je2IA7hlrW +bdnLyzkRtiUfA/Ynm1E+A+JInCcUVM4MgS3lbH3gMxwNOWGtkLmy7LnuFzes/tR yONAsaj+s0nS5JBFmg2N =r4Hu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart22343393.hDNPxDQVNe--