From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OohDm-0002SG-9n for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:30:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B6E7E1175; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C6AE116B for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7843F1B4033; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:30:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:29:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.1 (Linux/2.6.35.2; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Richard Freeman References: <201007041630.07537.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <4C769E17.2000307@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4C769E17.2000307@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2294657.jEKr5ggEm2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008261429.43173.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 7c257f77-7ccd-4f4d-82ad-98dc5efb2982 X-Archives-Hash: c243302ee9fec368be5610662d9f04dc --nextPart2294657.jEKr5ggEm2 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday, August 26, 2010 13:02:15 Richard Freeman wrote: > If there is no debate about whether OpenRC should be adopting it, then > why is it even being discussed in this way? Let's just do it... there is no debate. people saw Roy moving on and got scared. as i said=20 originally, it makes no difference to us. we're moving to openrc and it wi= ll=20 continue to be our default init system for the foreseeable future and the=20 support channel is unchanged: go to bugs.gentoo.org. as for people who want to move to the latest shiny init, as i also said=20 before, nothing is stopping them from getting it working today. we've had= =20 alternative init systems in the past that drop-in replace baselayout/openrc= =20 and there will continue to be ones in the future. however, until someone actually does the work to get one of the alternative= s=20 in the tree and actually working with other packages, there is no debate to= be=20 had as to the default init package. i'd also highlight that openrc focuses on one thing: it exists to boot the= =20 system and manage daemons via init scripts. it does not do all of the=20 extended things that systemd is taking over (inetd, crond, udevd, etc...). =2Dmike --nextPart2294657.jEKr5ggEm2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJMdrKXAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBeasQAKmFotoXi6nZGHUkcJeu/VaA 3kK2z+3EVmpfk/Zo2b9zi7CVEQJiNxTATyjuV9KyGIqVYyhRE4jvlZA7Zv5BQ+Fl UxGCCDwdB0nk47M9X9v8f8GrRZuN8AEkblWFgTQP8xwwiPVMqqs1wesgb+8l0UOI cH0Hh3Lq4FBwl+UBs9lsmB/kfOXCEiTPk6Umt1QM651lY/9NI2OuXkUhzzCXwDie yWs05VFRO6q00vG3mjl7iHX/CFCp7gdbdSXjbDAguI02Nd9N+Q79gg/3Un0Qnroo QQ124QAv8H3e1JCoFnINQFuWCx3OIrsgG4E0N8O8KDmXkgMK/CadPfPOYaDOKtmR uVPS4D4KdOGnHGpDGhO3pkJGlYFqUfxJDsLj13pW2B8gj5Nk00wPSUp+/TL7Wmrp u/hZuZaWyew8teGVGSbZMqxDcsz6rGO6l1woQjF93tz1qJpc5Yp5ZIcFmhVxXYrb TMFKxODb5Bx/cyPhpdPmPoNQHWo+CHtnpS7CZWc5Q8ZlfOgOTtiCb5ec/p8fH/z4 13PvoDas4TcQzhlhxITuDmYM0EcjrvLeBscSG2vgAz8E6+Z/FH4rzSlyU7451pm9 h8njQChaKupVaEfLjeZjU/nbCN/4lVGgx8+XtfD0zTwJjhhMKnQ1YZAr+evmDm8Y OzH4zy03kBBmCBXmGVFv =7AY0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2294657.jEKr5ggEm2--