From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OhqK4-0003HZ-8e for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 07 Aug 2010 20:48:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33D9BE098E; Sat, 7 Aug 2010 20:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F454E094F for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2010 20:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf1 with SMTP id 1so5015891gyf.40 for ; Sat, 07 Aug 2010 13:48:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=5lrIx6vp1Y9JGYHWxZ9I71Lz/qIthuMdmC0qWN0BsSg=; b=UV2Gn+sVCHoH4Vxc100AQ4QKESxMek2hbCbqeSs2GRLTDluMgy0A9tfwahpSV5L2Wp zt3PJQ7ArP0v857cWfUsqcUTiD8hB+9fG4mS47yeYDytEyAQUh3Qnm3djQFRCHDMnyjU 9NRSN2W2sU1H4QEy+BNXR9FqRBCS+LkHVczrE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=O64hql75MOSbmRLIYyxUv+xJO20R41tesOxky9nxcU5bUEXyR7M9aY3vpkWOARVLqZ gENRs685bM/JXbmH/1GOdi4mcrDf2pjTa7qtIBQNhFGQ2ihNBvUTZo8vTvdPXkTtdlOS zpiwad7MEUEDzOhFQG7zHDB5bVB1ggVvSMltc= Received: by 10.100.30.18 with SMTP id d18mr10582515and.239.1281214119849; Sat, 07 Aug 2010 13:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-183-49-63.tx.res.rr.com [76.183.49.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l6sm4865078ang.18.2010.08.07.13.48.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Aug 2010 13:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 07 Aug 2010 15:48:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 15:48:32 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: peper@gentoo.org, council@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council Agenda 20100809 rev 01 Message-ID: <20100807204832.GA21345@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, peper@gentoo.org, council@gentoo.org References: <4C5C61F6.3050108@gentoo.org> <20100807131630.GJ12708@hrair.al.intel.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100807131630.GJ12708@hrair.al.intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 1682c65a-499e-4e35-b96b-545958c47bfc X-Archives-Hash: 8aa121b970dddf1dc1024ef2ea4e07b7 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 06:16:30AM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:26:46PM +0200, Tommmmm Chvvvtal wrote: > > Hi, > > since I am this meetings girl for everything here is first pass on our > > agenda. > >=20 > > I am adding this mail only to g-dev and g-dev-announce to see if > > everyone notice, sorry if it slip your radar. Also if you have something > > to say on this mail please reply to gentoo-dev, or you will render me > > quite sad about thread breaking. > >=20 > > Without much ado here goes THE PLAN: > >=20 > > 1) allow all members to show up (5 min) > > 2) voting > > 2a) we have nothing to vote this time, nobody wanted anything YAY :) > > 3) discussion > > 3a) from last council meeting: the mailing list situation > > 3b) from last council meeting: eclass API changes > > 3c) EAPI 4 status (jmbsvicetto nominate this so we actualy do something= new) > > 4) Bugs assigned to council@ in bugzilla and their progress > > 5) select the chair for following meeting > > 6) open floor: community/developers can smash us here :) > > Z) buy some cookies (30 min) >=20 > I suspect we may not wind up being able to get to it in the coming=20 > meeting, but I'd like g55 sorted. >=20 > Specifically, if the authors of it (cc'd) want it to move forward,=20 > request the council vote on it. If you don't want it voted on, mark=20 > it moribund. >=20 > The purpose behind this is to put to end this discussion rather than=20 > having it flare up and make a mess every few months. >=20 > Simply put, it's nothing but divisive noise at this point with no real=20 > new technical discourse occuring- meaning it's realistically time for=20 > a decision (either push it to a vote or put it to bed). Regardless of my personal opinions about the technical issues on this glep, I agree with the above statement. I am personally tired of seeing the discussion flare up every few months and go nowhere. William --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkxdxqAACgkQblQW9DDEZTj/BQCfcrEaMTrRuvNDhw3ipQ0Ejwy8 VUwAoKH+1L9ZBHrAKSxy6cUQaKUIyIAN =D/he -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO--