From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OgC28-00016V-G8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 07:35:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3FFAE0BEB; Tue, 3 Aug 2010 07:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E5AE0BDE for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2010 07:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2938913wwc.10 for ; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:35:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=/n3TzdzX+CBt50uQ+8V5qIQgLJEbsxxttVKdATYvCtc=; b=Ne0QnPeT9bIWDp1Lu3uJHENg04p9hZba+8qcb7sTbikJM3qz742drEUZWLZIq6SOyK 2SBbeEmplruxs7n6FWsThSfNgrQJSQEB+7Cj0q6aEQ6gA8qB69ZsfUlkF7Nv8aqXOVP2 55TGOnBitrreC0SAc6Ah/K0o4ul5GxwwRR2vA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=ZFWm3uWWJtETyc2sB+Pn5twOIityF1e8og+OQ9JTFxklgWb/fJ7J6QFDtxV149Jj+M ws3HkilllpbFl5+raxwBwtNNVfhKlrKhjkZbflq/qoZnwrGLt3DbzvtHkNodg3AE2Goa OopEa2vnigaZptr4MoH9WpPmugf1EWnZkQH/8= Received: by 10.216.133.131 with SMTP id q3mr534185wei.1.1280820922678; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowcone ([92.16.77.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h37sm3333143wej.23.2010.08.03.00.35.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 08:35:15 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Reviving GLEP33 Message-ID: <20100803083515.5e3ee904@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <4C573EBB.3080005@gentoo.org> References: <4C569638.9000407@gentoo.org> <20100802211517.1f207d31@snowcone> <4C573EBB.3080005@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/3JdOCypW=nxm_+0QCezLS4P"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 06a76b73-f624-4088-b358-427171ed437c X-Archives-Hash: 3b48d33e40fea530081e2d78d4792060 --Sig_/3JdOCypW=nxm_+0QCezLS4P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:55:07 +0200 Matti Bickel wrote: > > No, you can't make global scope changes just in an EAPI without > > screwing up user systems. You have to do the whole "wait several > > years" thing for them. >=20 > Bad. So I guess it's back to ferring's "use a new directory not > readable by old PMs" idea. GLEP55++, but having to wait several > months for that and GLEP33 *on top* is not very motivation for me. Unlike the other ways of allowing new global scope functions, GLEP 55 doesn't require a wait, and it doesn't require mass fixing of existing packages. That's part of the point of it. GLEP 55 can be rolled out and used as quickly as the code to support it in Portage is unreverted. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/3JdOCypW=nxm_+0QCezLS4P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkxXxrYACgkQ96zL6DUtXhGvCACg26B4ubyubhPVR0mZYpHJbXeT NM0An3Dsu2dhm9f8WDCyERKShlzM42fc =SGsQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/3JdOCypW=nxm_+0QCezLS4P--