[gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Enrico Weigelt]

Hi folks,


does he speak for all of you ?


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------- Comment #4 from vapier@gentoo.org  2010-07-05 19:39 0000 -------
lemme clarify further: dont bother submitting ebuilds for any package in
OSS-QM.  we arent interested.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Nirbheek Chauhan]

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> does he speak for all of you ?
>
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> ------- Comment #4 from vapier@gentoo.org  2010-07-05 19:39 0000 -------
> lemme clarify further: dont bother submitting ebuilds for any package in
> OSS-QM.  we arent interested.
>

The "base-system" team maintains sys-libs/zlib, and he speaks for
"base-system". I think it's fairly implicit that he's talking about
packages maintained by him, and the teams he is in. Maintainers have
the final say w.r.t. packages maintained by them, the rest of us can
only give our opinion (except in extenuating circumstances).

To say it in precise words:

* He speaks for his packages, not for all packages in-tree.
* He speaks for himself, not all maintainers in-tree.
* Gentoo is not an anthropomorphic entity with a single coherent
opinion on anything unless decided by the council.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Peter Volkov]

В Втр, 06/07/2010 в 01:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt пишет:
> Hi folks,
> does he speak for all of you ?

Enrico I don't see why we may need to maintain separate ebuilds for
programs with patches scheduled upstream. Submit important patches
separately or, better, work with upstream so we'll get everything with
next upstream release.


> Subject: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from
> unofficial sources (???)

> ------- Comment #4 from vapier@gentoo.org  2010-07-05 19:39 0000 -------
> lemme clarify further: dont bother submitting ebuilds for any package in
> OSS-QM.  we arent interested.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Peter Volkov <pva@gentoo.org> schrieb:

> Enrico I don't see why we may need to maintain separate ebuilds for
> programs with patches scheduled upstream. 

This all is part of a bigger strategy, we've already discussed here.
See: http://www.metux.de/download/oss-qm-project-2010050101.pdf

> Submit important patches separately or, better, 

The whole idea is getting rid of individual patches, instead use a 
modern VCS. If you don't like to take the METUX.* branches, I'll be 
lucky to open (and even maintain) separate GENTOO.* branches.

> work with upstream so we'll get everything with next upstream release.

Actually, I'm already doing so for quite some time now.
But often cannot/doesnt want to apply hotfixes ad-hoc. That's what
OSS-QM for: provide downstream branches for distros, embedded 
maintainers, etc.


cu
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