From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OTeZ5-0002Qj-Cv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:25:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34065E0D28; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA444E0BB2 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so1967405wyi.40 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:25:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=H8qzgxjkiY85rAe+XGU1bSkfJ3qXv748SKny1x4DKSs=; b=gFHJ0WUToNXgJ3C/xhPdYPQC3Ik1JZtWML3EBQ6mOPH3IxL8+kYtNgF63YA3r9uGfq X7t6cbxWWKvoK5bJWSP/IcQye7nLtGa2H1mn26rLfLbYby3gT+GtHYQsUG7ugX4ixkz9 FS+ZRxr6QNTPZQ0/oZdC/DlLN6gVWzUkMVmKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=rGtrEAF75hFIeb8FjYkB6c0yNVcKaSi3+QZaTgx/D/AQBCGr1wvaZqBULMUWppHjP1 B6YiDiQ6IAGj2ebEDXxCUZxPZI++vxbmtY6x+Qf9IoV28ZwTpmaFOG7c8ttwKIyBmjaz 0/yQ+YgShHyNx31y4pc5/ZV1fvqVA62OghF/M= Received: by 10.216.85.1 with SMTP id t1mr5511320wee.3.1277832330946; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiny-one.home (host86-176-217-47.range86-176.btcentralplus.com [86.176.217.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 39sm2907116wet.19.2010.06.29.10.25.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:25:30 -0700 (PDT) From: David Leverton To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding --as-needed to LDFLAGS in profiles/default/linux/make.defaults Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:25:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20100628134307.GA13670@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> <20100629082340.63717494@snowcone> <20100629084652.GA13136@linuxized.com> In-Reply-To: <20100629084652.GA13136@linuxized.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201006291825.50802.levertond@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 34ec2e51-bc44-46e1-b35d-b0509cc9b5c6 X-Archives-Hash: c222679a6879e882fc58cef22517ce7a On Tuesday 29 June 2010 09:46:52 Alex Alexander wrote: > If the community feels their choice, albeit not perfect, will help the > project, you have to respect that. That is, if you want to be part of the > community :) I see your point to some extent, but the concern is that such decisions might sometimes get made according to who's best at ignoring technical objections rather than what's the best thing to do. It has happened before, although in that case the change was made first, and then when the issue was brought up it got basically ignored for so long that it would be pointless to fix. It would be worrying if things like that started to happen more often. In any case, as mentioned in my other mail, if this particular change is done in a way that's optional for the user, I personally won't be /too/ upset if the rest of you want to do unspeakable things to your systems ;-).