From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OTf6d-00053u-45 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:00:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21EFFE07D3; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91385E07A6 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so2088947wwb.40 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:59:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=TcKTW0+6iQ7QxKW1zrY88Zpy4EIl8svKmCaFRSg7Hys=; b=CrVBOcb0CsHlxRDxkPbfi7erVA6vlyCVMukVt3ZpB89Zjj8/cuvNCyHdObyPADhmg6 vbkx0bW+7bLb3rODr3fJnlIVZLzI8SHg0G3Kvvrm8zhJIryXjs8zrSRuOeeLB/FQqrjv EOitUHk2qk2r2RKNFeBL8mQ9qHaZR7c4PkizE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=GJwM5AVmk8+1ed8f3rdFvzDawOl2u849UKGCID9rTYe+QXZqJ8HoApeA8v8/iWWD8+ zPhtw5nFWJOfiedRJ32+EueQJeRjgMb+ANnCuDiWmB59NeZjnDzMi0iPpxZT6mF2Wd4e /sXHdf0gCgtpUPZXGmCMNtxZZBRPBPo++yOR0= Received: by 10.216.160.79 with SMTP id t57mr9875681wek.67.1277834391049; Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linuxized.com (linuxized.net [109.74.194.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s47sm2124356wec.13.2010.06.29.10.59.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Alex Alexander Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:59:53 +0300 From: Alex Alexander To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding --as-needed to LDFLAGS in profiles/default/linux/make.defaults Message-ID: <20100629175953.GB13136@linuxized.com> References: <20100628134307.GA13670@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> <20100629082340.63717494@snowcone> <20100629084652.GA13136@linuxized.com> <201006291825.50802.levertond@googlemail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201006291825.50802.levertond@googlemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 3c8448ef-d14d-43ce-b9b8-ab49ebc5f188 X-Archives-Hash: eeb735ec061c26fe8bf689c3cfc3639d --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:25:50PM +0100, David Leverton wrote: > On Tuesday 29 June 2010 09:46:52 Alex Alexander wrote: > > If the community feels their choice, albeit not perfect, will help the > > project, you have to respect that. That is, if you want to be part of t= he > > community :) >=20 > I see your point to some extent, but the concern is that such decisions m= ight=20 > sometimes get made according to who's best at ignoring technical objectio= ns=20 > rather than what's the best thing to do. It has happened before, althoug= h in=20 > that case the change was made first, and then when the issue was brought = up=20 > it got basically ignored for so long that it would be pointless to fix. = It=20 > would be worrying if things like that started to happen more often. I understand your concern. But this is no such case. We went through the discussion phase already. We're trying to avoid an endless loop. > In any case, as mentioned in my other mail, if this particular change is = done=20 > in a way that's optional for the user, I personally won't be /too/ upset = if=20 > the rest of you want to do unspeakable things to your systems ;-). This thread is about LDFLAGS+=3D"--as-needed" in make.defaults,=20 which can be overridden, so I don't see any issues there either. 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