From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding --as-needed to LDFLAGS in profiles/default/linux/make.defaults
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:05:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100628150519.1d962bb8@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1277733561.20369.1@NeddySeagoon>
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:59:21 +0100
Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:
> All of engineering involves compromise.
It's not a question of compromise. It's a question of being right vs
being wrong. If one person says that 2 + 2 = 4 and a loud mob screams
that their prophet revealed to them in a blog post that 2 + 2 = 6, you
don't compromise and say that 2 + 2 = 5.
> There is no point in waiting for a perfect solution to an engineering
> issue if that solution is so far away nobody wants to wait.
>
> The compromises become political discussions and we have seen plenty
> of them already. As its 'the masses' that will implement the
> solution, not the idealists, its time to go with the compromise that
> has been hammered out elsewhere ... unless of course the idealists
> have a patch already.
You appear to be assuming that those pushing the --as-needed solution
have it finished. This is far from the case. There's still a lot of
work that would need to be done, and that work will have to be carried
on by every developer indefinitely as new versions of packages come
out. It's a case of "the wrong thing requires quite a lot more work
before it's ready, and once it's ready everyone will have to carry on
working on it forever".
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Ciaran McCreesh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-28 14:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-28 1:09 [gentoo-dev] Adding --as-needed to LDFLAGS in profiles/default/linux/make.defaults Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-06-28 7:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2010-06-28 7:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-28 7:44 ` Samuli Suominen
2010-06-28 7:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-28 8:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " Nikos Chantziaras
2010-06-28 8:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Samuli Suominen
2010-06-28 8:10 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-06-28 13:43 ` Thomas Anderson
2010-06-28 13:59 ` Roy Bamford
2010-06-28 14:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2010-06-29 3:30 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-29 7:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-29 8:46 ` Alex Alexander
2010-06-29 17:25 ` David Leverton
2010-06-29 17:59 ` Alex Alexander
2010-07-05 13:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Hjalmarsson
2010-07-05 13:47 ` Arun Raghavan
2010-07-05 14:25 ` David Leverton
2010-06-28 8:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-28 11:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-06-28 11:46 ` David Leverton
2010-06-28 15:21 ` Brian Harring
2010-06-29 6:27 ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] h v l Mike Frysinger
2010-06-29 6:35 ` Luis Araujo
2010-06-28 8:17 ` [gentoo-dev] Adding --as-needed to LDFLAGS in profiles/default/linux/make.defaults Markos Chandras
2010-06-28 9:21 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-06-28 8:42 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-06-28 12:11 ` Alex Alexander
2010-06-29 17:04 ` David Leverton
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