From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OStRq-0000pC-JN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:07:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA76DE0B6D; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C905E0AAC for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so9951fga.10 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:06:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; bh=GBFBcWIOoz34+AiK3U+tpG9ALZNtKqJVXAq6+nYXs34=; b=tRbesjp2LLmQkxpzdH4yjYqaEbXpMe9+wEe8bOlAfaX89DC1zvEyGhkuVUN6sgSWRL tlC73Kfxm2ajND4HnASMnpb5dlv7yQvX3ASO2RqjZaqHEDRh1PFLTmi7p0u4HbSuNmvq tzAD2yOdKKRryHH9w+ybIIaPwxeOdkei6f3Tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent; b=U9bWXXFTsTJD9ZI9dwaF+UWKVwVIUQJuNfYQGvaPJLQyKCILaIknASJd5qbnQXSVLm zUJeG11Lg/CLQnq30qSmcSSJxCCejYRdQDZ3mdq5wuyOb5ujWQbARN2ABrh7Mm+YfHhK pGkEvICUfqQw/l5PvlabNG5WqUG69OuJqcFRI= Received: by 10.86.221.34 with SMTP id t34mr4900065fgg.36.1277651213210; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Eternity (79.103.24.94.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [79.103.24.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 1sm2195896fkt.11.2010.06.27.08.06.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Markos Chandras Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:04:45 +0300 From: Markos Chandras To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Policy for late/slow stabilizations Message-ID: <20100627150445.GA19456@Eternity> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 47431588-d789-4870-8d90-7f13a853f5c0 X-Archives-Hash: 732560dcd48e3fec3a715f316828776f --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi As many of you have already noticed, there are some arches that are quite slow on stabilizations. This leads to deprecated stabilizations e.g a package is stabilized after 60 days which makes that version of the specific package obsolete and not worth to stabilize anymore. I would suggest to introduce a new rule where a stabilization bug may close after 30 days. Arches that fail to stabilize it within this timeframe they will simply don't have this package stable for them. Moreover, slow arches introduce another problem as well. If a package is marked stabled for their arch, but this package is quite old, and they fail= to stabilize a new version, we ( as maintainers ) can't drop the very old ( and obsolete ) version of this package because we somehow will break the stable tree for these arches. How should we act in this case? Keep the old version around forever just to say that "hey, they do have a stable version for our exotic arch". Whilst I do understand that these arches are understaffed and they can't ke= ep up with the increased stabilization load like x86/amd64 do, I still think that slow stabilization leads to an obsolete stable tree which I doesn't make sense to me after all. Thoughts? --=20 Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkwnaI0ACgkQ9/cejkQaxBCwngCeK32AIIRRiyY0EkRliqdteNWS b/gAn3ZGlLJKhVnjWINZBpjz4hjVl1Lc =o19m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC--