From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OSbJ5-00015k-SW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:44:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E819E0940; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s15216962.onlinehome-server.info (forum.psychotherapie.org [217.160.22.205]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A576E08B1 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by s15216962.onlinehome-server.info (8.13.3/8.13.3) with UUCP id o5QJiWwp029838 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:44:32 +0200 Received: (from weigelt@localhost) by nibiru.metux.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) id o5QJdFmr010453 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:39:15 +0200 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:39:15 +0200 From: Enrico Weigelt To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages Message-ID: <20100626193915.GD4789@nibiru.local> References: <20100625201738.GA4789@nibiru.local> <4C252C8E.8020408@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <4C252C8E.8020408@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Terror: bin laden, kill bush, Briefbombe, Massenvernichtung, KZ, X-Nazi: Weisse Rasse, Hitlers Wiederauferstehung, 42, X-Antichrist: weg mit schaeuble, ausrotten, heiliger krieg, al quaida, X-Killer: 23, endloesung, Weltuntergang, X-Doof: wer das liest ist doof X-Archives-Salt: c94a3bf4-9914-4cf4-9ee0-d1ea1b6e2aee X-Archives-Hash: 9257e1ae286a22c199912282faa74666 * Petteri R=E4ty schrieb: > There should be useful stuff here: > http://video.fosdem.org/2010/devrooms/distributions/How_to_be_a_good_upst= ream.ogv #1 he says nothing about that - if upstream has a VCS (and properly=20 uses it ;-o) - the distros should use it, so eg. set their branches=20 ontop the upstream's release tags instead of manually maintaining patches against tarballs ... #2 One point i don't agree is the "dont add -Werror" rule. actually, i'm thinking of making -Wall and -Werror mandatory. if some package doenst build fine, it's simply broken. period. #3 When he's talking about "disabling dependencies", he most likely has the totally wrong concept in mind (as probably most Gentoo folks ;-p): you naturally dont want to enable/disable dependencies, but features (which then imply certain dependencies). Once you=20 use terms like "zlib support", you're already on the wrong path. #4 The discussion about "how to be a good downstream" (started by the ffmpeg guy) is quite interesting ... that's exactly the=20 kind of situations what the OSS-QM (see my recent posts) is for. (and all goes sooo easy w/ tools like git ;-p) cu --=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt =3D=3D metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------