From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OQsd4-0006aK-8F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:50:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C08FE0B80; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f53.google.com (mail-pz0-f53.google.com [209.85.210.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0D2E0A91 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk12 with SMTP id 12so124038pzk.40 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=1rIZGDO2Pn7qpeSn+j3Dy4sjoSo3xhUh8+rKttNAPYE=; b=PkA90kCdcxdHKvjdCZadeyJMoTh8txnTmdjVjDKyiNeeAosZ6HO+5ETMYzo9RXt7zI EXYCERbCBTyrfFX9TQ7+Z4y/0uaWGB/5rtPDCbdgSjfV4u9wQVQ9UwdShhQi8pTBR7TC pVB+F5CmmLvUyJfjd/BcxwbId4xZOUq2kMhsA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=P1sQbo+hK4GrjapudnZ7L6CyMk/U0AnYVgV/FcQ3KkZkCyPjrBKOJ3WEkC1LZTqEkq GYann1vqDXipbQ2CgT5Mzt0doDqSQh3r6yON48JjaQa7fwm934yeai9Acs1T187lFTs+ z6KO/WAoM3H6Tdexwd8y2O/4skMh6KW0ZkfBw= Received: by 10.142.66.27 with SMTP id o27mr4257949wfa.226.1277171176046; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.gmail.com (c-67-171-128-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.171.128.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r23sm3541600rvq.0.2010.06.21.18.46.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:11 -0700 From: Brian Harring To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping Message-ID: <20100622014611.GA24755@hrair> References: <1276977363.2635.0@NeddySeagoon> <4C1F9460.2020803@gentoo.org> <4C1FDB72.3020609@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C1FDB72.3020609@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 2f22154c-b75f-4617-a03e-a62c3976c99c X-Archives-Hash: ee981243bd7ddc080f908bbc32e7dccf --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:36:50PM +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Arun, >=20 >=20 > On 06/21/10 21:25, Arun Raghavan wrote: > >> My manifesto up here now: > >> http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt > >=20 > > For all your points where you do not have a concrete proposal of how > > you intend to tackle the problem, could you please elaborate? >=20 > please take your time to formulate concrete questions. >=20 >=20 > > """ (w.r.t. git migration) > > I hope to see Robin integrate me with the conversion process. > > """ > >=20 > > How have you contributed to the effort thus far? >=20 > I would like to re-phrase this question to > "how come you are able to help", okay? >=20 > I have > - knowledge of Git beyond an average user of Git > - migrated Portage from Subversion to Git > including explaining fake merges using commit-tree > to the portage developers [1] and more general essentials > before that [2] > - helped tommy of sunrise to get his earler multilib fork into > the Portage repo > - worked with > - Git hooks > - Gitosis > - Gitolite (including its setup) > - studied ciabot integration recently > - read most of gentoo-scm > - exchanged ideas with rbu and idl0r about it While an interesting list of skills, do you have any that are relevant=20 to finishing the cvs->git issues? I'll refer you to http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-scm/msg_f827a8dd519e2d831f77bb32895342bb.= xml Your proposed solutions in your manifesto is to just throw out the=20 manifest bits that need completion, in the process ignoring the=20 infrastructural and security reasons for their existance. Same goes=20 for ignoring the commit hooks chunk for rsync generation (after all,=20 we can't just tell every gentoo user that "by the way, we're no longer=20 going to update rsync"). I'd be a bit less critical of your offer here and the manifesto=20 presented, if it was actually factual and at least a partially=20 accurate understanding of the issues outstanding. At the very least, I suggest you actually have a chat w/ Robin=20 directly and get caught up on what the issues are rather than making=20 claims about his work that are pretty far off base. Also please note Arun's actual question was "what have you done to=20 help", not "what skills do you have". There is difference- one I'm=20 guessing that is being lost in the language barrier. ~harring --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkwgFeMACgkQsiLx3HvNzgd1xQCePw4OkWnWwxQ6QGaMrH+T9Zq2 kOcAoJKO4VZFrTGg+GdcwqBWr9aw6bVU =wS9r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j--