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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:16:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100619201648.2b88fce7@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C1D12FF.9020001@gentoo.org>

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On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:57:03 +0200
Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org> wrote:
> This may apply to easy and/or 99%-technical problems with a dictator
> around.  That's not what we have here.  It's two black-and-white for
> my taste, too.

No, that's the nice thing about delivering a product based upon
technical merit: most of the time, there are right answers and there
are wrong answers, and careful investigation and good management can
lead to it being determined which is which.

> > All bringing more sensitive people in does is cripples the
> > distribution's ability to delivery any technical improvements,
> 
> Looking at it the other way around: with more sensitive people around,
> collaboration would work better potentially leading to less loss of
> time and energy and therefore quicker arrival of improvements.

Collaboration works when good ideas get kept and bad ideas get dropped.
Collaboration fails when good ideas are rejected because people don't
like who came up with them or the tone in which they were presented, or
when bad ideas are kept around to avoid hurting the feelings of the
people who came up with those ideas.

> > Personally, I'd like to see Gentoo start having the kinds of people
> > who deliver a better product, not the kinds of people who worry
> > that using a gender-ambiguous cow as a logo might be offensive.
> 
> I don't consider that comment respectful.

But do you consider it to be correct?

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-19 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-16  3:33 [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16  3:51 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-06-16  5:03 ` Alec Warner
2010-06-17  0:14   ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-17  0:32     ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17  9:51       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-17  9:58         ` Auke Booij
2010-06-17 10:08           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-17 10:17             ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-17 10:01         ` Dale
2010-06-17 10:08         ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-17 10:15           ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-17 10:17           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-17 10:26             ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-17 12:51             ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17  2:08     ` Jacob Godserv
2010-06-16  5:43 ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-16 15:36   ` [gentoo-dev] " Nikos Chantziaras
2010-06-16 18:18     ` Alec Warner
2010-06-16 18:47       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-06-16 22:55         ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 19:31     ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-17  0:02       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 19:40     ` Roy Bamford
2010-06-16 22:33       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17  5:47         ` Duncan
2010-06-17 19:29         ` Roy Bamford
2010-06-18  3:43           ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-19  2:51             ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 22:14   ` [gentoo-dev] " Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17  3:24     ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-17 12:20       ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17 17:33         ` Jeroen Roovers
2010-06-16 16:39 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-06-16 17:07   ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-16 22:44     ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 22:47   ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-16 22:58     ` Steve Dibb
2010-06-17  6:59     ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-06-17  0:01   ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-17  0:17     ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-17  0:43       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-17  1:13     ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-17  6:46       ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-06-17  4:21   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-06-19  2:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19  3:20   ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-19  4:35     ` Angelo Arrifano
2010-06-19  9:00     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-06-19  9:37       ` Brian Harring
2010-06-19 16:33         ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 14:37     ` [gentoo-dev] " Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 14:58       ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-06-19 15:34         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-06-19 16:02           ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 17:07             ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2010-06-19 17:50       ` Wulf C. Krueger
2010-06-19 18:23         ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 20:38         ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-19  4:45   ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-06-19 16:15     ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 17:06       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-19 17:40         ` Richard Freeman
2010-06-19 19:10           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2010-06-21  0:00             ` Richard Freeman
2010-06-21  4:39               ` Arun Raghavan
2010-06-19  6:43   ` Patrick Lauer
2010-06-19  7:10     ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-06-19  9:32       ` Matti Bickel
2010-06-19 10:54       ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-19 17:44         ` Richard Freeman
2010-06-19 17:59         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-19 18:57           ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 19:16             ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2010-06-19 19:37               ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 21:03           ` Ben de Groot
2010-06-19 21:20             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-06-19 21:48               ` Patrick Lauer
2010-06-19 21:57             ` David Leverton
2010-06-19 22:01               ` Patrick Lauer
2010-06-19 22:13                 ` David Leverton
2010-06-19 22:05               ` Domen Kožar
2010-06-19 22:18                 ` David Leverton
2010-06-19 18:17         ` Dale
2010-06-19 16:20     ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-06-19 21:27       ` Patrick Lauer

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