From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OPXZY-0003Rm-Ee for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:09:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E80BE0B01; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60266E0ACF for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shanghai.localnet (p5B215D44.dip.t-dialin.net [91.33.93.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D161B4002 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:08:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Lars Wendler To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding AdobeFlash-10{,.1} licenses to EULA group Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:08:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (Linux/2.6.32.15; KDE/4.4.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <4C169D32.5080706@gentoo.org> <4C1A9E38.8050206@gmail.com> <20100618014229.GA12490@hrair> In-Reply-To: <20100618014229.GA12490@hrair> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1798912.3Q87khPx2X"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201006181108.29193.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 227a34b1-b06e-4867-91ad-d43c6f381bb9 X-Archives-Hash: 9942db478fed0d3af210513fbe64e5cc --nextPart1798912.3Q87khPx2X Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Freitag 18 Juni 2010, 03:42:29 schrieb Brian Harring: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 05:14:16PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > Lars Wendler wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch 16 Juni 2010, 14:45:21 schrieb Angelo Arrifano: > > >> On 16-06-2010 14:40, Jim Ramsay wrote: > > >>> Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n wro= te: > > >>>> One notable section is 7.6 in which Adobe reserves the right to > > >>>> download and install additional Content Protection software on the > > >>>> user's PC. > > >>>=20 > > >>> Not like anyone will actually *read* the license before adding it to > > >>> their accept group, but if they did this would indeed be an importa= nt > > >>> thing of which users should be aware. > > >>=20 > > >> I defend it is our job to warn users about this kind of details. To = me > > >> it sounds that a einfo at post-build phase would do the job, what do > > >> you guys think? > > >=20 > > > Definitely yes! This is a very dangerous snippet in Adobe's license > > > which should be pretty clearly pointed at to every user. > >=20 > > Could that also include a alternative to adobe? If there is one. >=20 > The place to advocate free alternatives (or upstreams that are > nonsuck) isn't in einfo messages in ebuilds, it's on folks blogs or at > best in metadata.xml... einfo should be "this is the things to watch > for in using this/setting it up" not "these guys are evil, use one of > the free alternatives!". Maybe I expressed myself a bit misinterpretative. I don't want to request a= n=20 elog message telling users about alternative packages. But in my opinion an= =20 elog message pointing at the bald-faced parts of Adobe's license should be= =20 added. These parts about allowing Adobe to install further content protecti= on=20 software is just too dangerous in my opinion. > Grok? >=20 > ~harring =2D-=20 Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) Gentoo developer and bug-wrangler --nextPart1798912.3Q87khPx2X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkwbN40ACgkQ9pZ0q5gcpvz+ZACfUGUg4pzgE0OITzhc1hkRfwh/ M3AAninC2NMtNTylzNcmwqXKACyVGkAq =4nuL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1798912.3Q87khPx2X--