From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OPC9s-00045I-JG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:17:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66DFAE0BDB; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18D3E0BCB for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb39 with SMTP id 39so6583225wwb.40 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:17:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=8LE4KP+kLWslUDL2nd0hQh18o5+WK43kOdnYPUytH2Q=; b=U4OPg0+9+bIIAigk5qLfLS6VGtTp3lOK18p4p3cB6bBFmQCK2YEd0zTo4fAxwSXd7P rBG9+paL5akCCC7Yq4PiCv5eCyFbTSZukfSpHThl5OpLz8xRnPMPH7FCE3igVQAQsrUa tCT3/lDKdqbSuMmCsvaHkWGbTicu+PLOUrb1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=iYkh8INgiGjejCLpU9VFjTozOw1Q6oNDgnnQBl6hJn+3aWbl28ZPPuW+fh3OzQkllh 5/HpiAAgUTT9jYWBwNSSQZyYvXzRopf5bmJIZ2ua/nqNcM2ohsbU4rPwVfofpX+6hDIT C/hmDWt+K+c83PIu9pUAgHqrcUEhDMnbEOkBM= Received: by 10.227.137.205 with SMTP id x13mr10024201wbt.6.1276769829877; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowcone ([92.16.90.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y31sm62920925wby.10.2010.06.17.03.17.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:17:03 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo Message-ID: <20100617111703.3c3febb1@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <4C19F405.7000504@gentoo.org> References: <4C184607.5080907@gentoo.org> <4C1968D8.9040309@gentoo.org> <4C196D33.5000204@gentoo.org> <20100617105136.0f886c3d@snowcone> <4C19F405.7000504@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/64p9b5=iwJEd/+9sc6RUlj="; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: e8c352df-f48d-4981-82a5-76c30285f391 X-Archives-Hash: e114627561a45e14ba446c188e77ab27 --Sig_/64p9b5=iwJEd/+9sc6RUlj= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:08:05 +0200 Angelo Arrifano wrote: > That choice can be to join the Gentoo community, or leave it. The choice can be to use Gentoo, or not use Gentoo. If using Gentoo means being required to use bugzilla, the mailing lists, forums and IRC, then Gentoo has huge scalability problems. Providing one on one support takes an awful lot of manpower; the goal should be to improve the distribution so that most people don't encounter many bugs and can get all the support they need from the documentation. Thus things like GLEP 42 news items: they're a way of avoiding having thousands of users running to get support because they don't know what to do when a large change happens. If you think the community's the important part, you'd do the opposite: you'd not provide upfront instructions, and would instead see big changes as an opportunity to persuade more users to participate in the community by trying to help each other. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/64p9b5=iwJEd/+9sc6RUlj= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkwZ9iIACgkQ96zL6DUtXhH3lQCfXQibhWo2MFg1hCcqa4JM1Amt FlwAoNFL+W7VCpwHYohAbe0MSDA3y4Aj =rlmn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/64p9b5=iwJEd/+9sc6RUlj=--