Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

[Jeroen Roovers <jer@gentoo.org>]

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:33:27 +0200
Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Tone is currently not a strength of Gentoo.
> 
> As I have heard there are people not joining Gentoo because the
> atmosphere in Gentoo is lacking respect and empathy.

That's a conclusion first, then a premise?

> I have searched a few places for rules on tone, looking at the Gentoo
> Social Contract [1], the Code of Conduct [2] and the Philosophy of
> Gentoo [3].  In a way the Code of Conduct defines what good and bad
> behavior is.  The term "Acceptable behaviour" may make sense as a
> counterpart to "Unacceptable behaviour" but feels like "what you can
> get away with" to me anyhow.

>  - How come tone is so rough when we actually meant to be
>    a friendly community?  Has it always been that way?

What are you referring to? forums.g.o? bugs.g.o? #gentoo? Who, where,
when, what channel, thread?

>  - With these Code of Conduct rules in place how come DevRel
>    is not publicly reminding of these rules where necessary?

When did you point this out to devrel?

> Could it be we expect perfection from each other instead seeking to
> understand and complement each other?  What can we do to make Gentoo a
> friendlier community?

Being probably guilty of all of the above, I'd say it would help if the
Gentoo users would file GOOD bug reports, and would know when to use
forums.g.o instead, but since I don't know what you are really
referring to, I decline to answer that one. :)


Regards,
     jer