From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OLZHZ-0001QT-OS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:10:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50497E0D48; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF288E0CFB for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marsupilami.localnet (84-238-114-252.u.parknet.dk [84.238.114.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F331B412B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:09:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Thilo Bangert To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: changing the developer profile: FEATURES="test" -> FEATURES="test-fail-continue" Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:10:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (Linux/2.6.33.5; KDE/4.4.3; i686; ; ) References: <4C0917B1.8080307@gentoo.org> <20100605214634.26fa6b78@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20100605214634.26fa6b78@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart14838647.4lCqU5GnlQ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201006071210.07109.bangert@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 3dd8e5e8-ff9c-4d81-9f3e-532ba4569eaf X-Archives-Hash: bb95d987b7bbb5d5699b8285f0ebb38e --nextPart14838647.4lCqU5GnlQ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ryan Hill said: > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:11:45 +0200 >=20 > "Pawe=C5=82 Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > > What do you think about doing the following change in > > /usr/portage/profiles/targets/developer/make.defaults: > >=20 > > replace "test" with "test-fail-continue" to make it just less > > frustrating (we still have a lot of test failures) > >=20 > > Hopefully that will also make more of us use the developer profile, > > and detect test failures. > >=20 > > What do you think? >=20 > I would say it's an improvement only because it might prevent one or > two people from completely disabling it first chance they get. :) >=20 > IMO, test failures should be given the same status as build failures. > Packages shouldn't be commited until they're fixed or bypassed.=20 > Following that reasoning, FEATURES=3D"test" is the correct setting for > the dev profile. It _should_ be annoying when you hit it, that's the > point. Fix it! What's the point of even having a test suite if it > always fails? You'd be better off to RESTRICT it and save yourself > some bug reports from me and all the other users you're foisting build > errors on. >=20 > But in the real world it seems it's just never going to happen. I've > been arguing this for years but people simply don't care. It doesn't > help that we don't have any finer control than "on" or "off". I'd > like to be able to say things like "these tests should only be run by > developers" or "some failures are normal" or "hope you have 10 hours > to run this" or "don't run these as root" or "don't run tests on arm" > etc etc. I'd like a pony while I'm at it. >=20 > Sorry about the rant. This is one of my biggest long-standing > annoyances. >=20 > Um, so yeah. For it! as it seems, there is disagreement about the issue among developers.=20 Perhaps the council would like to settle this, so that we can go on with=20 our lives. i do agree, that all packages should build successfully including the test= =20 phase. RESTRICTing the test and an open bug when this is not the case. thanks Thilo --nextPart14838647.4lCqU5GnlQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkwMxX4ACgkQxRElEoA5AnfguQCgsX9w6l5gMzzUrPYiilpYVG5f U0YAn2NShAV0mZk/AQ6JCcZDl3nwgSg7 =3LWN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart14838647.4lCqU5GnlQ--