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On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:19:28 +0200
Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Thomas,
>=20
>=20
> On 06/06/10 04:01, Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > [..] so even if it is not pulled in during installation, it will be
> > pulled in during world update.
>=20
> sounds right. Preventing this requires either masking or a
> dont-pull-uninstalled-slots switch for portage (which I am not
> suggesting), right?
In fact, these two seem to be the most reasonable solutions
for the problem. While this switch idea is more universal (and I guess
-- not that hard to implement), masking should be simpler.
> > Since python-3* is currently useless and not required for any
> > package, the dependency should by default only pull in python-2*
> > like this:
> >=20
> > =3Ddev-lang/python-2*
> >=20
> > With that, the default way would not pull in a package, which is
> > not needed or used. And if there will be any package, which really
> > requires python-3*, it simply requests it in (R)DEPEND of the
> > ebuild, which then would overwrite the default value of the eclass
> > and pull in python-3*.
>=20
> That's an interesting idea.
It sounds quite pointless to me. Forcing the packages to assume they
don't support the newer version just because nothing requires it yet?
> > Are there any reasons to pull in a package, which is not requested
> > by the user, not required by any package and by default not used by
> > any package?
>=20
> That a question I haven't seen answered before, either. Arfrever?
It _is_ requested by user. User requested upgrade of all dependant
packages, and here it goes.
--=20
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