From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OKuck-0007bT-Qs for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 14:45:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F41CDE0CEA; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D18E0B16 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from afta-gentoo.localnet (ip-85-198-235-97.broker.com.pl [85.198.235.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9894C1B404F; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:45:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis To: Gentoo Development Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3* Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 16:43:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (Linux/2.6.32-tuxonice-r9-AFTA; KDE/4.4.3; x86_64; ; ) Cc: devrel@gentoo.org References: <4BFE82C3.2050400@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4BFE82C3.2050400@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart26586903.DFZhg5GHFr"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201006051644.20150.Arfrever@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 2ce9d3a5-a99a-4643-a6e1-fdc5ebf251b9 X-Archives-Hash: da1367374e7dee50fe927f2f265a54b7 --nextPart26586903.DFZhg5GHFr Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010-05-27 16:33:39 Thomas Sachau napisa=C5=82(a): > Hi together, >=20 > since i am not able to get any real argument or even discussion on IRC no= r on this mailing list from > Arfrever (main person behind those changes), i would like to raise the fo= llowing points now on this > mailing list as told on IRC, so he gets the chance to answer those points= and to clear the issues: >=20 > -major changes to python eclasses have been done without peer review on t= his mailing list. There weren't any major changes in python.eclass in last months. In r1.96:r= 1.100 I committed a set of minor changes. Some code was moved, which might cause false impression that there were som= e major changes: =2D "MISCELLANEOUS FUNCTIONS" section (with 8 functions) was moved to befor= e "FUNCTIONS FOR PACKAGES SUPPORTING INSTALLATION FOR MULTIPLE PYTHON ABIS" section. =2D python_pkg_setup() function was moved to "MISCELLANEOUS FUNCTIONS" sect= ion. =2D A part of python_mod_cleanup() function was split to _python_clean_comp= iled_modules() function. python_mod_cleanup() now calls _python_clean_compiled_modules(). =2D 2 loops in python_mod_optimize() were divided and some code was reinden= ted. > This includes pulling in python-3* versions It's untruth. python.eclass or distutils.eclass don't enforce any particula= r version of Python. > -A news item, which is only shown, once python-3* is installed. >=20 > It is only shown _after_ installation of python-3. You might file an enhancement request for Portage to show news items before= installation. > -Arfrever also said, he would add a seperate news item, when python-3 get= s stabilized. I never said it. The plan was to have 1 news item for all users, who have i= nstalled Python 3.1. > Beside those points, one additional main issue is, that i and others dont= seem to be able to have a > discussion with Arfrever about this topics. I'm answering to new (unanswered), rational arguments about these topics. > He says, he has no time for it or says, that he already had shown argumen= ts, but cannot show > any evidence or just stops responding without any note. There had been multiple threads about Python 3. Read e-mails written by me = or Dirkjan Ochtman in the following threads: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_115ce6fa1a09de286bf58db12df463c6.= xml http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_814e67764c17f88bde94f22e9a392e4f.= xml http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_2591c1b9a7e7b72383d3841bc05dc417.= xml =2D-=20 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis --nextPart26586903.DFZhg5GHFr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJMCmLDAAoJEFU3/w1zlLfgZ6oP/0cw1nOEDTMb5EOIH4veFz9g OnKSHU0DlKVibFVpzqXwjDzRdh9OMwuWV8kIRUjepv1epbxCWGLRbG5ej8hZG7OT 1YgDflKkfBd6T8DWYe3C9kR3eH5PT0cutk4md8KlGV1lWJqYudRH6jVx3sK/prVz VTV2P8CT1PgYU0J7jhe/Q4tcib7x/7/yQGjKFRf8cJz4KLGBvGVA7mHq0WdTSjOP KjKDNKFdO04Ji8vn8J3zghcKhKUmrdHlDJfv7m3KVzVgNOReU228bn6ynFMRgsh0 UwUAQHwA3IYVBLyPjI/A6597AQv4NQgWmyzYOGQuiH7TzqRTBg9uuMMLR05kPWXL kSd/xvtDjD+0n2Z2FwJEBamsULO2m+mf8UorD8Dm0JwMvARB4ku+3b3R+E4y3pRm wxE5dIqCb7R251kxUyERjytwCDsBhqYgJGWzgB73QuAL/z6QSGC9AnD6j4+Jb5JU DJtOTKEBVq6qcJVga8w7NNteipat6H+6tgP/jIQ7mEqyLtU37q4dAaWAmmyJzDEA yq5mNQNg4lpzz+7rCsotww01CyzdO29QaLqto/ztDGgUdDhu2hgIv4FAU7UXNbC7 VGGwyv1v+JBGIV65oRAoF0VnAXpNeCIzKFRNNQrlginfmjV/tuaJrc9DwyczqyPt cGcNAyYQb9JDRKe2pkM2 =QvZe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart26586903.DFZhg5GHFr--