Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

[Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <Arfrever@gentoo.org>]

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2010-05-27 16:33:39 Thomas Sachau napisał(a):
> Hi together,
> 
> since i am not able to get any real argument or even discussion on IRC nor on this mailing list from
> Arfrever (main person behind those changes), i would like to raise the following points now on this
> mailing list as told on IRC, so he gets the chance to answer those points and to clear the issues:
> 
> -major changes to python eclasses have been done without peer review on this mailing list.

There weren't any major changes in python.eclass in last months. In r1.96:r1.100 I committed a set of minor changes.
Some code was moved, which might cause false impression that there were some major changes:
- "MISCELLANEOUS FUNCTIONS" section (with 8 functions) was moved to before "FUNCTIONS FOR PACKAGES SUPPORTING
   INSTALLATION FOR MULTIPLE PYTHON ABIS" section.
- python_pkg_setup() function was moved to "MISCELLANEOUS FUNCTIONS" section.
- A part of python_mod_cleanup() function was split to _python_clean_compiled_modules() function.
  python_mod_cleanup() now calls _python_clean_compiled_modules().
- 2 loops in python_mod_optimize() were divided and some code was reindented.

> This includes pulling in python-3* versions

It's untruth. python.eclass or distutils.eclass don't enforce any particular version of Python.

> -A news item, which is only shown, once python-3* is installed.
> 
> It is only shown _after_ installation of python-3.

You might file an enhancement request for Portage to show news items before installation.

> -Arfrever also said, he would add a seperate news item, when python-3 gets stabilized.

I never said it. The plan was to have 1 news item for all users, who have installed Python 3.1.

> Beside those points, one additional main issue is, that i and others dont seem to be able to have a
> discussion with Arfrever about this topics.

I'm answering to new (unanswered), rational arguments about these topics.

> He says, he has no time for it or says, that he already had shown arguments, but cannot show
> any evidence or just stops responding without any note.

There had been multiple threads about Python 3. Read e-mails written by me or Dirkjan Ochtman in the following threads:
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_115ce6fa1a09de286bf58db12df463c6.xml
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_814e67764c17f88bde94f22e9a392e4f.xml
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_2591c1b9a7e7b72383d3841bc05dc417.xml

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Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

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