From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OKFZ9-0002r2-Vk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:54:56 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D331E0A81; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 18:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr19.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr19.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.39]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C912E09E0 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 18:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from epia.jer-c2.orkz.net (atwork-106.r-212.178.112.atwork.nl [212.178.112.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr19.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o53IschU009770 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:54:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jer@gentoo.org) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:54:32 +0200 From: Jeroen Roovers To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: Notify people about empty herds (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] FTR: media-optical@g.o has no developers) Message-ID: <20100603205432.4454b321@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4C0785C0.3080700@gentoo.org> <1275570192.7629.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4C07BC29.2090006@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Archives-Salt: 1a55d34b-69f9-4f9e-b8c5-26ee157b2e92 X-Archives-Hash: 43fda84e1e3ff0a2783f3f92c0ad0fa6 On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:44:10 +0300 Markos Chandras wrote: > all the gnome-* herds look obsolete to me. It should be like kde and > use only one alias. Further more the comm-fax could be merged with a > net-* alias, and all the desktop-* could be merged in one herd. The > dev-embedded could be merged with embedded, kernel can merge with > kernel-misc. Plus I am sure that we can perform a clean up/merge on > net-* herds. Same rule for sci-*. Speaking for myself, the net-* and netmon herds are much too diverse to pile onto one big stack. As with the other suggested herd mergers, you'd merely end up piling more work onto unsuspecting developers' desktops, possibly discouraging some of them to dig through all the extra incoming mail. If any changes are made in this respect, it should have the approval of all members of all herds considered for a merger. > Having 150 herds for 300 *listed* devs doesn't seem optimal You could qualify that statement a lot better. I don't see a problem here. Many developers are members of more than one herd, which the simple 2:1 relation you exemplify does not carry out that important bit of information. There is a real problem with herds that have a single or no maintainer, the former mainly because that could very well lead to another case of the latter, and we should certainly address both problems, but we should create as little as possible new problems in the process. Regards, jer