From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-40630-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1NzeVv-0004TO-Gm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:18:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4226FE0944; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s15216962.onlinehome-server.info (forum.psychotherapie.org [217.160.22.205]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4472BE093E for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by s15216962.onlinehome-server.info (8.13.3/8.13.3) with UUCP id o37NHvUm024080 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 01:17:57 +0200 Received: (from weigelt@localhost) by nibiru.metux.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) id o37NDJbj024735 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 01:13:19 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 01:13:19 +0200 From: Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps Message-ID: <20100407231319.GC16593@nibiru.local> References: <e117dbb91003011324j1d3df0cfndc74d1e711b71fae@mail.gmail.com> <201003052151.22506.reavertm@gmail.com> <e117dbb91003051306q77f01b3fl6e9809cb41ab87e3@mail.gmail.com> <8b4c83ad1003060117g234f3edfh5373ef82fceadbee@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8b4c83ad1003060117g234f3edfh5373ef82fceadbee@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Terror: bin laden, kill bush, Briefbombe, Massenvernichtung, KZ, X-Nazi: Weisse Rasse, Hitlers Wiederauferstehung, 42, X-Antichrist: weg mit schaeuble, ausrotten, heiliger krieg, al quaida, X-Killer: 23, endloesung, Weltuntergang, X-Doof: wer das liest ist doof X-Archives-Salt: a6a7a0b0-8520-411c-8a91-9a8b207cc9cb X-Archives-Hash: bd6270326e1300a73eddd04720b1b9a5 * Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek@gentoo.org> schrieb: > If it turns out there is no easier way of properly fixing this, > we may have to split poppler-utils out from poppler. ACK. Having separate packages for public libraries and utils which just happen to use these libs should be the default case. Not just because of circular deps - which, in 99.99% have absolutely _no_ technical reason, beside certain people's mental lazyness (at least that's what my about 20yrs swe experience shows up ;-o) - but also a matter of clean sw design. This should start at the source, so if upstream doesnt want to fix this, let's fork. (i'm hereby volunteering as maintainer). cu PS: please no "we're not debian"-flamewars ;-o -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------