From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NyM9u-0002XI-81 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:30:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25FDBE0C9C; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.a3li.li (stingray.a3li.info [78.46.109.74]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEC7E0C8A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (stingray.a3li.info [127.0.0.1]) by mail.a3li.li (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744AF12314C6 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:30:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at a3li.li Received: from mail.a3li.li (p5081993E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.129.153.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.a3li.li (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6FCBC1231461 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:30:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:30:09 +0200 From: Alex Legler To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki Message-ID: <20100404113009.09c7b1c1@mail.a3li.li> In-Reply-To: <4BB7D11F.7060207@gentoo.org> References: <20100403163010.1897d663@mail.a3li.li> <4BB7D11F.7060207@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/wM.iUadYEAnlgc0zj+_s.Ib"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ddf608ae-478a-4990-81d6-146f7b1ec1be X-Archives-Hash: ad08cda0cf3054f2f688570928734a0e --Sig_/wM.iUadYEAnlgc0zj+_s.Ib Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 01:37:03 +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > [...] > > >> Here's another idea: > >> The German Wikipedia uses a concept called "sighted revisions". If > >> you visit an article without logging in you will see the latest > >> sighted revision, as an identified user you can also view the > >> latest revision. > >=20 > > That's an interesting idea, which we should consider. >=20 > I'm not sure if that a thing to go for. Drawbacks: > - More work (whereas we could use more manpower already) We need moderators, that is clear. If they check the content for correctness and remove spam they might just as well click one more checkbox to mark a stable revision. > - New bottlenecks That's sorta point #1 rephrased. > Couldn't we just make two big "namespaces" >=20 > 'devs' -- Developers only > 'registered' -- Full edit access to any registered user >=20 > in the same wiki and have pages be in either namespace, reflecting the > namespace in the page name or path somehow? >=20 In MediaWiki, that'd be the nil namespace for 'registered', i.e. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/25WaysToBreakYourMachine and $whatever for 'devs': http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Devs:25WaysToBreakYourMachine or http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Devwiki:25WaysToBreakYourMachine For MoinMoin, I'd suggest what they call a wikicluster. users: http://wiki.gentoo.org/gentoowiki/25WaysToBreakYourMachine devs: http://wiki.gentoo.org/devwiki/25WaysToBreakYourMachine > I expect that to be > - easy to implement For both, yes. > - providing a good mix of openness and quality control >=20 >=20 > > GuideXML documents are often experienced as an unnecessary > > barrier. >=20 > I think you should clearly state again that this is not gonna replace > GuideXML, just migrate a few use cases where a wiki fits better. > This is what you aim for, right? >=20 ! --=20 Alex Legler | Gentoo Security / Ruby a3li@gentoo.org | a3li@jabber.ccc.de --Sig_/wM.iUadYEAnlgc0zj+_s.Ib Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAku4XCIACgkQk+oqhfPAZGllMQCfZma845bcTt+snfPg40lO7LTG pHIAoJ0TFkn36Lcw6mEL5/5dhN+P5zY1 =rWUJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/wM.iUadYEAnlgc0zj+_s.Ib--