From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ny2ev-0007Mo-Jf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 12:41:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C76AE0818; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D1EE0747 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.localnet (ip1-67.bon.riksnet.se [77.110.8.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E5A1B403D for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:40:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Magnus Granberg Organization: Gentoo.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix? Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 13:40:23 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.32-gentoo-r3; KDE/4.3.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <1270286192.18734.3.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> <4BB70E5C.8040405@gentoo.org> <1270289959.18734.19.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> In-Reply-To: <1270289959.18734.19.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201004031440.23735.zorry@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 78b3702e-0b8a-42d0-8830-7769f6d7f39a X-Archives-Hash: 63d55467d96212f98c8dc3545adfe4c9 l=C3=B6rdag 03 april 2010 12.19.19 skrev Tobias Scherbaum: > > > - hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental > > > overlay, lots of users keep asking what's happening to the > > > hardened-sources on both the -dev but also the -hardened mailinglist. > > > Yeah, we do have people working on hardened stuff, but if people just > > > take what's happening in the portage tree they might think that the > > > hardened stuff they're relying on for their business isn't supported > > > any longer. > > > > With Zorry we just got a new recruit for working on hardened things, > > especially toolchain. It's not as dead as you make it sound ... >=20 > Good to see there's something happening in hardened - but still, the > user outside of Gentoo still only is seeing: "Oh, no hardened-sources > update for nearly a year." >=20 How long did it take for Hardened GCC to move to 4.X? And we are still=20 lacking SSP support in the tree. We have lost almost all dev's in the herd = the=20 past years. As for hardened-sources we are working on it but that work has= =20 not hit the tree yet and that not a good situation. It will hit the tree so= ner=20 or later. We work on our free time to and we don't have all the free time i= n=20 the world to work on it. There is a long todo list. It is very time comsumi= ng=20 work on the toolchain, kernel, docs, bugs, recruit and help users at the sa= me=20 time. As tree dev that do all the work but we have users and some devs that= =20 help out too and that we are thankful for ther help. Hopefully we have=20 something on the hardened-sources after next meeting.=20 @ Pawe=C5=82 Hajdan, Jr. you could ask in hardened-kernel@gentoo.org what t= hay need=20 for help or join #gentoo-hardened @ freenode.net And the hardened-sources in the hardened-development overlay have some=20 regreesions that we are working on to fix. Sorry if i bing roude. Hardened at gentoo.org Magnus Granberg (Zorry)