From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NxzqS-0008G9-BX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:40:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6C91E0771; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE71E076D for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.isohunt.com (unknown [208.71.112.51]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDAE1B4002 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11365 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2010 09:40:16 -0000 Received: from tsi-static.orbis-terrarum.net (HELO grubbs.orbis-terrarum.net) (76.10.188.108) by mail.isohunt.com (qpsmtpd/0.33-dev on beta01) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:40:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 6733 invoked by uid 10000); 3 Apr 2010 09:40:12 -0000 Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:40:12 +0000 From: "Robin H. Johnson" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo dying? Message-ID: <20100403094012.GE12674@orbis-terrarum.net> References: <1270286192.18734.3.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1270286192.18734.3.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 4e2000d6-9630-432c-8c67-ef2ae463e6e3 X-Archives-Hash: 6361008a7fdf9f5d18b13253bd18fafd On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > - Infra: One might get the idea our Infra team is just Robin (yeah, sure > there are more people, but ....) ... things are happening slowly (no > offend - I fully understand that those few can't dedicate more of their > spare time to infra work!), take overlays.g.o migration, Bugzie-3 > migration and so on as an example. - Presently in the infra team and active on a day-to-day basis: darkside ford_prefect halcy0n idl0r robbat2 - In the infra team and active several times/month: fox2mike kingtaco ramereth solar armin76 Problems in infra: - lack of communication and perceived transparency - We'd like to open read-only access to our Nagios soon... - lack of perceived progress - The perceived big ticket items appear to move very slowly, because they are much lower priority than day-to-day running of infra. I do have an announcement to make in the next day or 3 about some infra stuff that's going on, because it's going to affect every developer. Question for you there, you said 'overlays.g.o migration'. What migration? It moved to the "new" hardware more than a year ago. > - Website redesign - we had a contest some years ago, got a winner, > someone started to adapt the design and somewhat that project fall > asleep. The guy that was doing the redesign changes vanished for a long time, he's been around again lately however. > So - what to do now? To be honest - I have no real clue. But a first > step might be to collect your opinions on where we do lack manpower and > ideas on how to solve this problems. A Wiki might be fitting well for > that task *cough*. A next step might be to discuss every identified > problem and discuss our options and ideas how to improve the situation. Discussion on wiki has been going on for a while, I'll come, in a couple of months probably, but I still haven't heard anything of my call for people that were willing to do the work of editors and spam removal. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee & Infrastructure Lead E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85