From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NxzpO-00085P-L5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:39:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA412E0B1F; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pv0-f181.google.com (mail-pv0-f181.google.com [74.125.83.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7D8E06D6 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg16 with SMTP id 16so1066284pvg.40 for ; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:39:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=zD5XtLzw1iLBpnGbsL7TDfglFHHsmm9Sri7WqokJLQI=; b=Xjyjz/zCd9ct24MJT4m2A36lfCI4evbc31qdmsqaQ+CzHlB2QhzeZaJYT6BZS2KyIB iI/1a2eT6g/0ZMm0Z4KrDZQnu0EOOOtB/S5lyXP7m5zTt3kUAZAwfgsXlvQg6DrHnkWo WVHEDhj7UqwYR5xHbdk4fFj2Y1p2TFv53LqFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=t6hMbXvL6Wo+HAPya++wxdfPdUBq1xnPP208h4T/TKL3yl+dIvIB7utOIpwrTW6IOF YQyaH13o4DTU/7EHdS2eqeIg3u84HC2bNMYSJPn+j83x3y/szZZBKYXosrMldrIzIPIv P+4EPgSTBp9B7Sw47U52qF67Gh7TTSAbncj9c= Received: by 10.114.237.24 with SMTP id k24mr3104349wah.29.1270287576026; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.gmail.com (c-67-171-128-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.171.128.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm8740816pzk.8.2010.04.03.02.39.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:37:43 -0700 Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 02:37:43 -0700 From: Brian Harring To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo dying? Message-ID: <20100403093743.GQ11663@hrair> References: <1270286192.18734.3.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kPJUzav3owWaKxsz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1270286192.18734.3.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 33960816-8c57-4e66-834d-ef0c766e781b X-Archives-Hash: 0a2a15d4926dddca3554d7721f3d7feb --kPJUzav3owWaKxsz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > Hell no, but ... Then avoid feeding the distrowatch trolls w/ sensational=20 subjects please ;) > We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way. > Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were > users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead. Got any metrics offhand? The reason I ask is that I can't think of a=20 time when 'understaffed' wasn't an applicable term. Sidenote, if we *aren't* tracking the basics, it might be worthwhile. =20 Shouldn't be too hard to grab the history of herds.xml for example and=20 extract the relevant data. One thing to note... crappy support for something can draw people out=20 to contribute. Hence asking about metrics- I wouldn't be surprised if=20 the headcount for misc. projects is a cyclic rise/fall. At the very least I'd be curious about the pre and post git metrics,=20 once that conversion is finished up. > - Infra: One might get the idea our Infra team is just Robin (yeah, sure > there are more people, but ....) ... things are happening slowly (no > offend - I fully understand that those few can't dedicate more of their > spare time to infra work!), take overlays.g.o migration, Bugzie-3 > migration and so on as an example. Relaying from IRC, overlays.g.o migration bits seem to be done... > - Website redesign - we had a contest some years ago, got a winner, > someone started to adapt the design and somewhat that project fall > asleep. A status update on this one would be useful, even if it's just "got no=20 time, here's what is remaining" so someone could jump in and help=20 where possible. Personally I'd suggest trying to extract status updates from folk-=20 it's more useful anyways to know what's needed to get various projects=20 done. ~harring --kPJUzav3owWaKxsz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAku3DGcACgkQsiLx3HvNzgf7VgCeN+wJcPqhL06ucd4zK7to4Bqr 5vkAniMgxFJbsaFPN5oG8HPGOtbpqr9G =y0Sm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kPJUzav3owWaKxsz--