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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
To: ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_pretend USE validation and VALID_USE alternative
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 04:38:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100401113836.GN11663@hrair> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100401122342.3c59a865@snowcone>

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On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:23:42PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 03:59:54 -0700
> Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:42:10PM +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
> > > > Basically, you want the PM to lie to the ebuild in some fashion.  
> > > > Since pkg_pretend is free form, it's effectively impossible to
> > > > cover the scenarios it could check on- consider checking the
> > > > kernel config/version, or checking the active jvm/python version.
> > > 
> > > except the kernel will not change during the upgrade,
> > 
> > Pardon, I wasn't clear- I was referring to kernel sources, not 
> > the running kernel.
> 
> But if the kernel sources symlink is changed by installing new kernel
> sources, there won't be a valid .config in the new directory anyway.

Oddly enough, I actually have an ebuild that directly contradicts 
that- used for managing my sources w/in kvms.

> Thus, pkg_pretend doesn't introduce any new breakage.

Regardless of my own usage, ironically you just inadvertantly pointed 
out a whole class of false negatives pkg_pretend has.

Specifically, 

1) starting w/ a configured kernel at /usr/src/linux
2) merging a version of aufs2 requiring new kernel sources
3) emerge runs pkg_pretend.  aufs2 does it's checks w/in pkg_pretend, 
sees the old configured kernel and thinks things are fine
4) new kernel sources get merged.  /usr/src/linux is no lnger a 
configured kernel.
5) aufs2 blows up during its build due to an unconfigured 
kernel.

Since I'm in the mood for a Scooby Doo quote, "wraut-wroh".

~harring

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-01 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-31  9:20 [gentoo-dev] pkg_pretend USE validation and VALID_USE alternative Brian Harring
2010-03-31  9:48 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] " Ulrich Mueller
2010-03-31 10:46   ` Brian Harring
2010-03-31 11:04     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2010-03-31 11:11       ` Brian Harring
2010-03-31 15:38       ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-03-31 11:18     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] " Piotr Jaroszyński
2010-04-01 20:44     ` Róbert Čerňanský
2010-04-01 21:51       ` Zac Medico
     [not found] ` <201003312316.23806.ali_bush@gentoo.org>
2010-03-31 10:57   ` Brian Harring
2010-03-31 17:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alex Alexander
2010-03-31 19:46   ` Brian Harring
2010-03-31 19:56     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-04-01  7:31       ` Brian Harring
2010-04-01  7:41         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-04-01  7:56           ` Brian Harring
2010-04-01 10:10             ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2010-04-01 10:18               ` Brian Harring
2010-04-01 10:42                 ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2010-04-01 10:59                   ` Brian Harring
2010-04-01 11:23                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-04-01 11:38                       ` Brian Harring [this message]
2010-04-01 11:50                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-04-01 10:49             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-04-01 11:18               ` Brian Harring
2010-04-01 11:44                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-04-01 17:04                 ` David Leverton
2010-04-01 18:39                   ` Dror Levin
2010-04-01 18:55                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2010-04-02 22:36                     ` David Leverton

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