From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NxISC-0005P5-8V for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:20:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04D5FE0AB5; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82057E0205 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FFD1B4063 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:20:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.139 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.139 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.460, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9-6s9aLWuCxG for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f175.google.com (mail-pz0-f175.google.com [209.85.222.175]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B2D1B4065 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk5 with SMTP id 5so416235pzk.0 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:20:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=nlzx7UnZ7U00kilhZc/EllSDyv4JcRkgIl+DAmqL5b4=; b=KpSjymW3SM+0z9h52XuyOckQ7pPB/F7dw90k27fIwisw7o8LPZCrcja/LN/S5O01qi w3UbvH1PF/wuRWd1PdwwSOFquSvpl29tkQ3dRK75v0XtORrBZmH1m99WEgXtDlpXcrwc laRH2H34pGLwCgLq23Ebl0v4pL1D8/pxhdWMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=wVi6YA32w9a2ebqXHM3f97gFxWNoDuZFE0C5ILyFs1tCPbVTEphtVag3rG/AtNIoix 2lL8z1+I21FmGJoAUhPmHBtNXxlRzJ2H8rNJG8l0jvOrsPXMVMwUMQQCrLFJLQVSgC30 7eh7jde2zixE9ewuLamM6mQTuDj3KzqJXtAa8= Received: by 10.115.133.14 with SMTP id k14mr1023165wan.73.1270120820705; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.gmail.com (c-67-171-128-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.171.128.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1235985pzk.5.2010.04.01.04.20.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:18:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 04:18:27 -0700 From: Brian Harring To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_pretend USE validation and VALID_USE alternative Message-ID: <20100401111827.GM11663@hrair> References: <20100331092035.GA11663@hrair> <20100331174925.GA16267@faith> <20100331194626.GG11663@hrair> <20100331205628.368fb02c@snowmobile> <20100401073109.GI11663@hrair> <20100401084102.2560f3a3@snowmobile> <20100401075608.GJ11663@hrair> <20100401114907.5ab3fe67@snowmobile> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rpGc+ACYPE+RMC+Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100401114907.5ab3fe67@snowmobile> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 03a156e3-6983-4cc0-a8a0-832673694459 X-Archives-Hash: d2ac8243621298040fd8164b10bd657c --rpGc+ACYPE+RMC+Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Summarizing ciaran's claim to end this nonsense- VALID_USE isn't useful because use cycle breaking can't be done=20 according to strictures he desires, as such VALID_USE is pointless=20 because pkg_pretend can cover it. It's a bit brief and likely left out an insult or two, but it's to=20 the point at least and doesn't need more expounding of his views. So does anyone _other_ then ciaran care to comment? Thinking I may=20 write this up as a glep as an attempt to start pushing PMS changes=20 into a more visible and documented light. ~harring --rpGc+ACYPE+RMC+Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAku0gQMACgkQsiLx3HvNzgdZ5QCaA5X0H1s2DkK7uMjl//Kc0aDi qq0AmwfU5/XGAZR33e87gnwsoaEM8L2G =M51q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rpGc+ACYPE+RMC+Z--