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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:15:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100326161542.GA31270@hrair> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003261704.29687.Arfrever@gentoo.org>

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On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 05:04:28PM +0100, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> 2010-03-26 16:43:57 Brian Harring napisał(a):
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:22:52PM +0100, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis 2010-03-25 20:05:17 napisał(a):
> > > > 2010-03-25 19:34:24 Roy Bamford napisał(a):
> > > > > The case where Python-3 cannot be used as the default Python is 
> > > > > transitory (it may be a long time).
> > > > 
> > > > Gentoo Python Project will soon start supporting setting Python 3 as main
> > > > active version of Python. Currently about 57% of our packages from dev-python
> > > > category are prepared.
> > >
> > > My script was wrong. More correct data:
> > > About 55% of packages in dev-python category belonging to python herd are prepared.
> > > 100% of packages in net-zope category belonging to python herd are prepared.
> > > About 60% of packages belonging to python herd are prepared.
> > > About 47% of packages in dev-python category not belonging to python herd are prepared.
> > > About 13% of packages not belonging to python herd are prepared.
> > > About 34% of all packages depending on Python are prepared.
> > 
> > I get the feeling your phrasing here is a bit misleading- 'support 
> > setting py3k as main active python' implies that the stats above are 
> > the # of pkgs in the tree supporting *using* a py3k interpretter.
> > 
> > I'm betting you mean "support multi-abi", meaning if you've got py2.6 
> > and py3.1, it'll install into py2.6, while avoiding py3k.  Fair bit of 
> > a difference.
> 
> These numbers include packages which support installation for multiple Python ABIs
> and packages which call python_set_active_version().

Bleh.  So in other words a third of the pkgs that dep on python have 
the minimal basics for dealing w/ py3k landing.  I'd question what 
percentile have proper locked deps also (stating they're py2k only), 
but that's a seperate discussion.

That *still* doesn't answer the question of how many can be *ran* by 
py3k also.

Note in the past when breakages of this sort have been unleashed, the 
percentile of prepared pkgs has been generally a helluva lot higher- 
having 90% prepared is one thing, but y'all aren't at that point and 
you've got 3 weeks (after what, 3 months?) to bring the percentile 
higher then a third?

What's the minimal percentile you're aiming for prior to the 
unmasking?

~harring

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Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-04 18:22 [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-04 18:38 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-03-23 19:01   ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-04 21:16 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-03-04 21:43   ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-04 22:56   ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-05  4:59     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-07 17:11   ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2010-03-07 17:32     ` Samuli Suominen
2010-03-07 18:26       ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-07 20:06         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-07 18:25     ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-08  5:38       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-08  3:08     ` Ryan Hill
2010-03-08  5:00       ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-03-08  9:39         ` Matti Bickel
2010-03-08  9:53           ` Antoni Grzymala
2010-03-08 14:23             ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Hjalmarsson
2010-03-08 14:31               ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-05  8:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Saddler
2010-03-05  9:10   ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-05  9:41     ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-05  9:56       ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-05 10:14         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-05 10:22           ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-05 11:09             ` Maciej Mrozowski
2010-03-05 11:24               ` Zac Medico
2010-03-05 12:37                 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-05 17:23                   ` Alistair Bush
2010-03-05 19:28                     ` Andy Kittner
2010-03-05 20:23                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2010-03-05 19:26                 ` Duncan
2010-03-06  0:19                   ` Zac Medico
2010-03-08 21:28                     ` William Hubbs
2010-03-10 17:36                       ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-10 22:43                         ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-11  0:25                           ` William Hubbs
2010-03-11  1:24                             ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-11  2:34                               ` William Hubbs
2010-03-11  5:04                                 ` Jacob Godserv
2010-03-11 18:32                                   ` Alec Warner
2010-03-12 20:48                         ` Ravi Pinjala
2010-03-05 10:00       ` [gentoo-dev] " Zac Medico
2010-03-10 13:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2010-03-23 19:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-23 19:28   ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 16:43     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 16:56       ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 17:23         ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 17:35           ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 17:37             ` Alec Warner
2010-03-24 17:41             ` Doktor Notor
2010-03-24 17:51             ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-03-24 18:04               ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 18:28                 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-24 18:41                   ` Richard Freeman
2010-03-24 18:55                     ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 18:57                     ` William Hubbs
2010-03-24 16:57       ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-24 17:14         ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 17:32           ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-24 17:36             ` Alec Warner
2010-03-24 17:45             ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 17:53               ` Sebastian Beßler
2010-03-24 17:47             ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-03-24 18:03               ` William Hubbs
2010-03-24 19:53                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-24 19:57                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Sachau
2010-03-24 20:25                   ` William Hubbs
2010-03-24 20:36                     ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 21:12                       ` William Hubbs
2010-03-25  3:47                         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-25 15:37                           ` Richard Freeman
2010-03-26  9:02                             ` Pacho Ramos
2010-03-26 12:10                               ` Zac Medico
2010-03-26 12:33                                 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-03-26 12:35                           ` Zac Medico
2010-03-26 15:40                             ` Brian Harring
2010-03-26 15:57                               ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 16:08                                 ` Dale
2010-03-26 16:28                                   ` Alec Warner
2010-03-26 17:27                                     ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-03-27 17:37                                       ` William Hubbs
2010-03-26 17:43                                     ` Dale
2010-03-26 17:53                                       ` George Prowse
2010-03-26 18:39                                         ` Dale
2010-03-26 18:48                                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-25 18:34                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Roy Bamford
2010-03-25 19:05                           ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26  7:59                             ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2010-03-26 12:21                               ` Zac Medico
2010-03-26 14:22                             ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 15:43                               ` Brian Harring
2010-03-26 16:04                                 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 16:15                                   ` Brian Harring [this message]
2010-03-26 16:37                                     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 21:22                       ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-03-23 19:57   ` [gentoo-dev] " Jonathan Callen
2010-03-24 17:58     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

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