From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NusJr-0004sd-Qj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:02:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FF80E0954; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F068AE0885 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from afta-gentoo.localnet (ip-85-198-235-97.broker.com.pl [85.198.235.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7479A1B403B for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis To: Gentoo Development Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:05:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.1 (Linux/2.6.32-tuxonice-r5-AFTA; KDE/4.4.1; x86_64; ; ) References: <1269542070.3165.0@NeddySeagoon> In-Reply-To: <1269542070.3165.0@NeddySeagoon> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2047495.Hu7XRjZMIR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003252005.46396.Arfrever@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: b9cec148-a52e-452c-8528-daf6ca13cbbc X-Archives-Hash: 0f0a3eb7c52198a809c68a33b12c29a3 --nextPart2047495.Hu7XRjZMIR Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010-03-25 19:34:24 Roy Bamford napisa=C5=82(a): > On 2010.03.24 21:12, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:36:52PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote: > > > On 24 March 2010 21:25, William Hubbs wrote: > > > > If we make it clear in the news item that python-3 cannot be used > > as the > > > > default python, so if users do not want it they should mask it,=20 > > we > > have > > > > done our job imho. In other words, this is just a matter of > > informing > > > > users. > > >=20 > > > We agree that this is the minimum that should be done. But our > > > Python lead stubbornly refuses to honor this reasonable request. > > =20 > > On the other hand, I can see his point as well. The news item makes > > it > > very clear that python-3 cannot be the default python and that > > python-2 > > needs to be installed. > >=20 > > It could be argued that he is just assuming that users are=20 > > intelligent > > enough to figure out that they need to mask python-3 if they > > do not want it on their systems. > >=20 > > Basically this is a case of "how much hand-holding do we want to do"? > >=20 > > William > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > The case where Python-3 cannot be used as the default Python is=20 > transitory (it may be a long time). Gentoo Python Project will soon start supporting setting Python 3 as main active version of Python. Currently about 57% of our packages from dev-pyth= on category are prepared. =2D-=20 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis --nextPart2047495.Hu7XRjZMIR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJLq7QKAAoJEFtpjAED8H0Y004QAMluN0BSmSHr1sZNCmT9/j2V Iu/Fr80Vdi8qm19g1wsOlKZcYzvWbcMcdnr5Fa0wj2J6OyQJa5JS+D0BYak8Hxsy 4EwgmyrPHqwYYSOD+wrzzWbcYNbaFdBCJQZ06OPrYC+hKSjVGculJyreASoo5Sg/ 3stQKWhx5KzNEEPaF7aHYVEVieLT7ggRdjnsKSjmujMNoiGA2Zzw1S2zuJH2jGZK EA54DkiXNFwcY8EAYZKplzn55gANH8hYtGpvgG6KgE5VusdoVOsf2lbMkG0OUG1P HGcdblRSoTXJJXh97UfBoYdM8QDqhxTnaBrGl3+fuxYbgrTIa1KXZ2LvW1fhuDaQ QYZtCx/rIfyxklPzn4CPjLaqmGMtRbOkr1QEKi3+kbcfqWJWntenO9QOsRk66Khv /KUIi0s0wQeRr4jMGfVaOEP2HKuHSgimI5VVcxOtez4uIOrSSpAQBzqGJamTKf64 Xbt5nerupkxJhFKX+j9AZ4//m0SyLWlNw0M+dUDFC6JEXLAbGV/Y+ks5P0Ps7HXP nERiOU4BtQFMzg1+0Rbcfop3P/eNxtHPhnnavdEdIP2kSANBBmHJd/bZ+9tAc1xp 1ldMlNQQlmiHJf1ywVa22B4V8WLo5B4Sk7R6IaIEMvH6ikpC8IsHL57gVaD12OcM iLd0gzMB7D+hRbR2RSM5 =zQ59 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2047495.Hu7XRjZMIR--