From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NsZTL-0007Iv-Gi for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:30:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4C42E0D5E; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FC7E0D4C for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from afta-gentoo.localnet (ip-85-198-235-97.broker.com.pl [85.198.235.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007F667E7F for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:30:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis To: Gentoo Development Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:34:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.1 (Linux/2.6.32-tuxonice-r5-AFTA; KDE/4.4.1; x86_64; ; ) References: <4BA27CE2.7080005@gentoo.org> <20100319093033.16437529@snowmobile> <4BA34E5C.7040800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4BA34E5C.7040800@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart9017230.g9AOjaynEu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003191134.27046.Arfrever@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 2109c87f-a773-4e19-bb5d-6c4c35bd8419 X-Archives-Hash: aba2a76028e1aa3890c55a9be177e9a9 --nextPart9017230.g9AOjaynEu Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010-03-19 11:13:48 Dale napisa=C5=82(a): > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:23:31 -0500 > > Dale wrote: > > =20 > >>> It's being installed because it's a dependency of something you use. > >>> > >>> Replace Python with any other library and we wouldn't be having this > >>> discussion. > >>> =20 > >> OK. Right now, as you type this, what package depends on python-3 > >> and won't work with python-2? Anything at all? If it is nothing, > >> then why install it? > >> =20 > > And that's where you're making the mistake: you're treating Python as > > being different from every other package. > > > > In every other case, you want things to be using the newest version of a > > slotted package where possible. Why aren't you complaining that you were > > forced to install gcc 4.3 and 4.1 when 3.4 worked just fine? > > > > =20 > Because, when I installed gcc 4.3, I could then unmerge the old gcc. =20 > That's why I didn't complain about that. With python, we still have to=20 > have the current version plus the new version which is not being used at= =20 > all. >=20 > Am I not correct in that? If the new python is installed, what exactly=20 > is going to use it? I used the new gcc. It worked fine. I unmerged=20 > the old one with no wasted space and one less package installed. This=20 > doesn't appear to be the case with python-3 tho. It's going to be=20 > installed and just sit there like a rock. Python 3 is used during installation of packages, which support Python 2 and Python 3 and support installation for multiple Python ABIs. You can directly execute scripts with "-3.1" suffix (e.g. "bpython-3.1" or "coverage-3.1") to use Python 3.1 even when Python 2.* is set as main active version of Pyt= hon. =2D-=20 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis --nextPart9017230.g9AOjaynEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJLo1MyAAoJEFtpjAED8H0YJw0QAKLVf5C5bghFi5IvOWIvz+Qt Tz2BKLgXd6xEMQebbE9dHCf5FGMXbIX/Wp7JkivJwThD/1Shp5E90pHnWFYlgEQx ev3rIgIHyUpylV1pDGgW0VriB02LEUQI/uxn+akZbXL7p+U3RZlVeuC5xB9LyGvo lrCQRMH1vyCnasg0xdAa1nHuNTu7YGkEXEewQAs940nKtBdAiehRbsWTfyxu/bie yfvrUJqzSywVbzhLBRUQ457FUdpzrPREH9k89CY3pUCjt5JZUXL0d806MBNa4q6I Ekv658pJTlWaTXJsnXFqPueh6NVna6u5H5Ao6BsesCQOhj5xCySxGXSmz4Fr3gny XGy5Z35+E4G9t8q/smfVf7gjKaYmeSPjJekvTH0swXCmLybwQwL0fzqG4e8wrX9s mTvSCScG+9PhIuJzzPq9WbOnWOWQ7YzSleB7Lfq/0MKu51a0TBF4zFi3v7dZ6pr5 g4pTCgHZ7YPCr7H5O9mxrl4MNbHU3sEcmZirnVsoon+klaXnAV8pRT6PpaQjsOxr aMUplbvbOJvly8YdXzLzTinz86oKSM4mlcdOMZO+0pJUEQSxo2yC/0AQgKEewieG qm0RQOf9aovwFUOAi0YXL9J76fuABL0t2VaBy7NYRWil212RvQmtlFFaKD4uXb+y ZSPrKtUTDDlAPXljVkHw =jvUy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart9017230.g9AOjaynEu--