From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1No9Wo-0000m7-Ac for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:59:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6620E0AE0; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 05:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B9FE0ACC for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 05:59:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44A71B401C; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 05:59:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:59:31 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (Linux/2.6.32.6; KDE/4.4.0; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Brian Harring , Dale References: <1267641936.26170.5.camel@localhost> <4B904B35.4000202@gmail.com> <20100305003210.GF9408@hrair> In-Reply-To: <20100305003210.GF9408@hrair> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3008993.4kHXEP8IQ2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003070059.32495.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 6eea7e3b-379c-4978-8083-c1d4c2749240 X-Archives-Hash: 2068146800b6ff96a38c928531fe52b1 --nextPart3008993.4kHXEP8IQ2 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 04 March 2010 19:32:10 Brian Harring wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 06:07:17PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > > On 03/04/10 12:53, Ben de Groot wrote: > > >> Exactly. The last time I owned a printer is over 5 years ago. So I > > >> don't think cups warrants to be in the standard desktop profile. > > >>=20 > > >> Cheers, > > >=20 > > > I print almost daily, but I'm not sure if printers are commonplace > > > enough for cups to be a default. Some users may expect it though. > > >=20 > > > As for the circular deps, it would seem more logical to fix the > > > problem at the source, rather than to cover it up for one subset of > > > users. > >=20 > > I can't think of anyone that doesn't have a printer. All my friends and > > family that has a computer has a printer. Heck, I had a printer hooked > > up to my old Vic-20 for goodness sake. That was over 20 years ago. >=20 > A sampling size of one is of course representive of the whole. The > vast majority of gentoo deployments I deal in, cups is bloat- my > personal laptop, sure, that's a different story. That's well under a > tenth of my installs however. >=20 > The point there is that one size doesn't fit all- we have inheritance > in the profiles for a reason. Shift cups out of the base and into > desktop specific profiles. >=20 > That one shouldn't be a point of debate. indeed. printing support should absolutely be enabled by default in deskto= p=20 profiles. i'm not sure it makes sense in other profiles. =2Dmike --nextPart3008993.4kHXEP8IQ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJLk0DEAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBJwQP/2+GrS4AbxTd8hXrwBMR/kgL h/W7RCCnR/A6EoXMfVHLCEv3a1vC4oLtJQ1N27IN88R5Vy6jqOvly2/uk6R6x3hr T//fnxos3gO7SGlC1nvDHDujTtPsumbyDOkq5SuqBQKHc9qXVid8hc6RPgwPZhBl ETH1CbSAw+5Vu35mMncdt7CP6k/OAgF+Sshl0ntqFmJPp2NBD8sCm0hHku3ZO8VN T+Qd9MCCzppOtzi5mH1jz6J+XnzrnNcVGDMBiMNWZ5HG1pw6LB4LGhj3IW41CQvA QFFOLd/I8GuY/KuTizuoL4XoRdPQgzdFebcovwoqrW9THPSFSj5H3ooqCA9oiLnI bxCdHZW/gHC1IoJrRQzxsu+pkkJzJEHLiqVFH2bwIsEr2eh8h8s6y7oif6xDlt2v CGj7SYa3pdFY/mi5yDGrN9wJHj0Gd3HQwfj4SabTvENrphVnqRjfElA3PKMg9lm8 SKOzD2RFEg1ZVxwg/NHpRa8SyzU1BUJcOtDZb/9f29uIeUKvd/sZY5YI3IzRPgUa oZKu4cDgR65iDI+S5VrLR7+52/lB2RD6js4S45IB4N/uBhUvK71eDhfGgNz3qazT PTSI5GMbW9Ii8vktU74HFIIlluiaqNHdM7ltcdaeLYm709vI86SXhZ0tPEdYA8FF zX8qP/zKE3O8vKDAX30T =TXt3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3008993.4kHXEP8IQ2--