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From: Alistair Bush <ali_bush@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:23:03 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003060623.03478.ali_bush@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e117dbb91003050437h2041ac61m74c2e900988cae4d@mail.gmail.com>

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> On 5 March 2010 12:24, Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > It won't be pulled in by sys-apps/portage dependencies which look
> > like this:
> > 
> >  || ( dev-lang/python:2.8 dev-lang/python:2.7 dev-lang/python:2.6
> > 
> >>=dev-lang/python-3 )
> >>
> > If you already have python:2.6 installed then it will not pull in a
> > new slot.
> 
> That means we would need to fix all packages that depend on
> python to use this style of dependency notation. Or do some
> eclass magic with NEED_PYTHON for example.
> 
> And of course anyone with an unslotted dev-lang/python in their
> world file will still pull the useless version.

Then they shouldn't have dev-lang/python in their world file then should they.  
Or should we start putting special magic rules around everywhere.  Hell i'm 
sure I have useless crap in my world file,  you don't see be bitching about 
being forced to upgrade some package I never use.  If it is in there then it 
is my responsibility,  not yours.

Guys you should remember that we like to call gentoo a metadistribution [1].  
Our users should be taking an active role in the maintenance of the own distro  
what we should be doing is saying yes we have determined this package to be 
stable.  The news item should tell users they can safely mask python:3 if they 
wish.

The only concern I have is all the [>]dev-lang/python [R]DEPENDs there are in 
the tree.   They should be fixed to either be slotted or a dependency range.  
Thank god this will never happen again now that we have slot deps....  right? 
:|

Alistair.


[1]  http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml
[2]  and by this I mean looking to see what packages are going to be installed 
and whether they really want to install them.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-05 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-04 18:22 [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-04 18:38 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-03-23 19:01   ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-04 21:16 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-03-04 21:43   ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-04 22:56   ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-05  4:59     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-07 17:11   ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2010-03-07 17:32     ` Samuli Suominen
2010-03-07 18:26       ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-07 20:06         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-07 18:25     ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-08  5:38       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-08  3:08     ` Ryan Hill
2010-03-08  5:00       ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-03-08  9:39         ` Matti Bickel
2010-03-08  9:53           ` Antoni Grzymala
2010-03-08 14:23             ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Hjalmarsson
2010-03-08 14:31               ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-05  8:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Saddler
2010-03-05  9:10   ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-05  9:41     ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-05  9:56       ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-05 10:14         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-05 10:22           ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-05 11:09             ` Maciej Mrozowski
2010-03-05 11:24               ` Zac Medico
2010-03-05 12:37                 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-05 17:23                   ` Alistair Bush [this message]
2010-03-05 19:28                     ` Andy Kittner
2010-03-05 20:23                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2010-03-05 19:26                 ` Duncan
2010-03-06  0:19                   ` Zac Medico
2010-03-08 21:28                     ` William Hubbs
2010-03-10 17:36                       ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-10 22:43                         ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-11  0:25                           ` William Hubbs
2010-03-11  1:24                             ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-11  2:34                               ` William Hubbs
2010-03-11  5:04                                 ` Jacob Godserv
2010-03-11 18:32                                   ` Alec Warner
2010-03-12 20:48                         ` Ravi Pinjala
2010-03-05 10:00       ` [gentoo-dev] " Zac Medico
2010-03-10 13:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2010-03-23 19:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-23 19:28   ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 16:43     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 16:56       ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 17:23         ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 17:35           ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 17:37             ` Alec Warner
2010-03-24 17:41             ` Doktor Notor
2010-03-24 17:51             ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-03-24 18:04               ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 18:28                 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-24 18:41                   ` Richard Freeman
2010-03-24 18:55                     ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 18:57                     ` William Hubbs
2010-03-24 16:57       ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-24 17:14         ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 17:32           ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-24 17:36             ` Alec Warner
2010-03-24 17:45             ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 17:53               ` Sebastian Beßler
2010-03-24 17:47             ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-03-24 18:03               ` William Hubbs
2010-03-24 19:53                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-24 19:57                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Sachau
2010-03-24 20:25                   ` William Hubbs
2010-03-24 20:36                     ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 21:12                       ` William Hubbs
2010-03-25  3:47                         ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-25 15:37                           ` Richard Freeman
2010-03-26  9:02                             ` Pacho Ramos
2010-03-26 12:10                               ` Zac Medico
2010-03-26 12:33                                 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-03-26 12:35                           ` Zac Medico
2010-03-26 15:40                             ` Brian Harring
2010-03-26 15:57                               ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 16:08                                 ` Dale
2010-03-26 16:28                                   ` Alec Warner
2010-03-26 17:27                                     ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-03-27 17:37                                       ` William Hubbs
2010-03-26 17:43                                     ` Dale
2010-03-26 17:53                                       ` George Prowse
2010-03-26 18:39                                         ` Dale
2010-03-26 18:48                                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-25 18:34                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Roy Bamford
2010-03-25 19:05                           ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26  7:59                             ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2010-03-26 12:21                               ` Zac Medico
2010-03-26 14:22                             ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 15:43                               ` Brian Harring
2010-03-26 16:04                                 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 16:15                                   ` Brian Harring
2010-03-26 16:37                                     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 21:22                       ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-03-23 19:57   ` [gentoo-dev] " Jonathan Callen
2010-03-24 17:58     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

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