From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NlVnq-0006B3-Ph for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:10:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E60BE0160; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rookery.halcy0n.com (rookery.halcy0n.com [69.72.242.50]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFF1E086D for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rookery.halcy0n.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B717DA5617; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:14:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:14:36 -0500 From: Mark Loeser To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Marking bugs for bugday? Message-ID: <20100227231436.GD1733@halcy0n.com> References: <4B889D1F.3040304@gentoo.org> <20100227162232.GB1733@halcy0n.com> <4B8958B1.4020706@gentoo.org> <1267294451.3077.2@NeddySeagoon> <20100227204832.GC1733@halcy0n.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: be1f9624-a5a0-4d9a-88cf-a655452682ce X-Archives-Hash: ad47a17ad24d1341def32f27c523cbc0 Ben de Groot said: > > Its been pretty much dead. =C2=A0We need more developer involvement s= o users > > can actually talk to them and help resolve issues. =C2=A0If we can't = get > > enough developers to participate then we should just stop trying to d= o > > it instead of putting on such a poor showing. >=20 > I would like to be involved but not in the current disorganized form. O= ur > #gentoo-bugs channel topic still refers to the thoroughly outdated > bugsday.g.o page, and I can't edit either of them. I can modify the channel topic for you. I should have a login for the bugsday.g.o page somewhere, if not...I'm sure we can get one. > We need an easier interface to mark bugs to be tackled on bugday, > and I like Sebastian's proposal for that. The idea for the bugsday.g.o > page is good, but it needs to be brought up-to-date and accessible > to all devs. Low barriers to participation and all that. And even devs > who cannot take part on the day itself could participate by requesting > certain bugs or issues to be tackled. If you want to take the lead on this, come and talk to me on IRC and let me know what ideas you have. I'd love to see it take off, but I don't have the time to put towards it myself. > Also, participating devs should get permission to commit easy fixes > for packages they don't maintain (the other thread about commit > policies is relevant here). Obviously issues that are more involved > need to be passed on to the proper maintainers. This is something we'll have to be careful of and discuss what types of changes can be done. Not everything needs to be necessarily fixed in the tree though, helping users get proper patches onto bugs can be just as good and help get more useful contributions from those users in the future. Consider it an opportunity to train possible new developers. > I think if we can get a few devs and possibly some users together > to organize this in a better way, this could be useful. But if things > are to stay the way they are, then we better stop pretending. I couldn't agree more. --=20 Mark Loeser email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org email - mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://www.halcy0n.com