From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NVoRY-0008K3-7t for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:50:36 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51B44E02CB; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC9CE02CB for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dante (mail.cel.gob.sv [168.243.233.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7788C671CE for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:50:08 -0600 From: Victor Ostorga To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn Message-ID: <20100115095008.5173fcbf@dante> In-Reply-To: References: <201001112305.16532.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <201001122030.27164.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <20100112194037.GA917@launay.org> <201001122149.11091.hwoarang@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: fe17d98a-99f0-46dd-bc40-7440909cb35d X-Archives-Hash: 865bdfd4346b5f0016e69423d74fea14 On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:35:45 +0100 Ben de Groot wrote: > 2010/1/12 Markos Chandras : > > If you feel like it, become a proxy-maintainer and poke a developer > > to put your ebuilds on tree. Have you ever heard of that ? :) >=20 > Proxy-maintainership should be given a MUCH higher profile in Gentoo, > in my opinion. It is a virtually unknown option. >=20 > Another thing that works in my experience, but this is up to the > herds/projects, is having an official overlay where devs and users can > work closely together. This allows users to commit ebuilds and > patches, while there is quality control by the involved devs. Devs can > keep an eye on such overlays and move stuff to portage when they are > ready. Sunrise is the most obvious example for this, for > maintainer-wanted packages. But it works equally well for us in the Qt > project with qting-edge, and I believe kde and pro-audio have the same > experience. >=20 > But I also believe we need a better structure to handle > maintainer-needed, maintainer-wanted and nominally maintained but > ignored packages. Maybe we should form a team, which would be > dedicated to take care of such things, and which would have a review > policy for user submitted ebuilds and patches in bugzilla. A bit like > treecleaners, but bringing life instead of death. What do you think? >=20 I agree with the creation of a maintainer-needed team, but to be honest, all those packages ended in maintainer-needed by lack of manpower. Even with the manpower problem, there are people helping with those packages, such as Patrick, Samuli, Diego and myself.=20 I am in the maintainer-needed CC so I always try to commit patches and do fixes to those packages, although lately I have not had much time available. So, if anyone have a patch for a maintainer-needed package, feel free to ping me :) V=C3=ADctor