From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NUsZ5-0006C3-Jb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:02:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31830E0886 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.nocworld.net (mx1.nocworld.net [213.218.133.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92F6E066B for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 01:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cassis.cusae.net (adsl.cusae.com [81.57.24.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.nocworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC1DE1A277F for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:18:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from citron.localdomain (citron.cusae.net [192.168.5.3]) by cassis.cusae.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA4E7025F for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:18:59 +0100 (CET) Received: by citron.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6ACD7E549B4; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:18:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:18:59 +0100 From: Arnaud Launay To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn Message-ID: <20100113011859.GA6022@launay.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <201001112305.16532.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <201001121832.11523.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <20100112192159.0fa03cd1@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <201001122030.27164.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <4B4CC87A.80503@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://launay.org/pgpkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 9bb3512b-9f6d-4902-9c2b-a32d30fbf4c4 X-Archives-Hash: a9dae90096924c41078fe716be720e8c Le Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:37:19PM +0000, Duncan a =E9crit: > FWIW, I feel for the treecleaners. It's a job with little > thanks and lots of chance to make someone mad at you, but I'm > glad /someone's/ doing it! =3D:^) Yeah. I'm glad each time I see old things getting deleted, abandoned software and such. So, yeah, thanks, treecleaners. Your job is as easy as a sysadmin's one: no one knows you exist, except when someone needs to scream at you... > In the case of the INNs of the tree, that should prevent > masking entirely, since popular packages will certainly have > someone raising the roof on just the warning, within a day or > two. That was certainly the case here. No masking means > ordinary users won't have to ever know it happened. Well, as it happens, I knew it was being masked because I got the mail warning from gentoo-dev-announce, which is unfortunately a bit badly advertised. Anyway, I would have scratched my head far, far more if I had to understand WTF portage would complain about an inn masked... I don't care when it's small, unused package -- last time it was lprof, and I didn't really care, it was a bit still here from a package I installed years ago, and which passed through depclean. So, what about something like: * mail on gentoo-dev-announce, saying "heads up. mask in one week" * one week later, mask and "classical" mail "foo/bar masked" I have absolutely no idea how much work it requires, so I won't complain if TC says it's too complicated/unpratical/etc. BTW, I have no knowledge of the concept of proxy-maintainer, I'll look at it tomorrow, it's 2am here... :) I don't even think I ever heard of it before, but I didn't brush my gentoo-fu for a few years, that may explain... Arnaud.