From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NUmc6-0007dT-3Z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:41:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52E96E07F5; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.nocworld.net (mx1.nocworld.net [213.218.133.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C60E07F5 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cassis.cusae.net (adsl.cusae.com [81.57.24.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.nocworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 62C541A34A9 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:40:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from citron.localdomain (citron.cusae.net [192.168.5.3]) by cassis.cusae.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93FE701DE for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:40:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by citron.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 501) id ACC13E54515; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:40:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:40:37 +0100 From: Arnaud Launay To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn Message-ID: <20100112194037.GA917@launay.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <201001112305.16532.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <201001121832.11523.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <20100112192159.0fa03cd1@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <201001122030.27164.hwoarang@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201001122030.27164.hwoarang@gentoo.org> X-PGP-Key: http://launay.org/pgpkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 5996a216-c5bb-4ba5-b7a6-94b69896b989 X-Archives-Hash: 2e2993e5ede502f3b1a72e47c1754167 --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:30:26PM +0200, Markos Chandras a =E9crit: > So if you want a package, plz take care of it :) =46rom a "user" point of view, having submitted ebuilds, patches ideas and questions here and there on bugs.go, I must admit I end up putting up my "contributions" on my local /usr/local/portage because it never makes it to the official tree. I love Gentoo, but sometimes I feel like I'm using a debian stable :) I do not say everything should be bloody-edge at all times, but as a hoster, I use a lot of those so-called "servers" -- apache, mysql, cyrus-imapd, inn, postfix, amavisd, maia (which has a working, if not perfect, ebuild standing in bugs.go for years now -- #130068 -- and which is in "maintainer-needed" status), etc) , and I have to put them under our local tree to use them. For example, I've one for pondus, a very small gnome app which tracks your weight... I never bothered submitting it to bgo. I wonder how much time flies before users begin to stop posting their corrections to bugs.go and keep them local, because they never get committed. I agree that some management is needed, but I feel like it's becoming more and more complicated to participate in the project -- either you have to write a document showing you understand how the management works (why should I care ? I just want to add a patch), either your patch/ebuild is "ignored" for years. It might not be the case for every herd, though. It seems to me it was easier to participate in 2004... BTW, I'm not looking to troll here, so please: no flamewar. It's just my humble opinion, I don't want to get people mad, and I can very much be completely wrong. Arnaud. --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktM0DUACgkQGDnxpQ/p9z20hwCgqym03VOOzRBNaJUKtiriDm5o Lj4AnRnbyjoN2AgSEYIxNJ3XAf4ifwVA =nXtu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF--