From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org)
	by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60)
	(envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-38826-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>)
	id 1NMknj-0007Pv-6M
	for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:08:03 +0000
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C22BCE0950
	for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:08:02 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com (mail-bw0-f215.google.com [209.85.218.215])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFD8E05FC
	for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:53:05 +0000 (UTC)
Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so3834916bwz.26
        for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:53:04 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=googlemail.com; s=gamma;
        h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject
         :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version
         :content-type;
        bh=KGxEXlhwBI5g+wZtS+N6wfWHQcwJq+BR4ETNhjfD0eI=;
        b=MHCJP1Hc8xJdftHCkURPZu+jrcBsfB7gwvagUyk4RG6cSqbZtUHmnCKiQj8jALNwdN
         hfzqA6mxmCmreG8BTI2QIGtgGXhZArnowGk3EXmYzsj2pmQRrpEuTmRXYm8R0qD1ZD35
         R3dHXMg13psct1VNVO00OhfpzuVGBREh7HUg4=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
        d=googlemail.com; s=gamma;
        h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer
         :mime-version:content-type;
        b=xSFsovCBCQxT/LIXVbfkUjt3N9pD31IX89lbHysotyQu4Uce/a43U10Exx1uc8Ao/5
         Yp+hrkJksUo/Qxd2n79p6zu6x5KS6ZRN3BLi7pzcHrxPakTlldevl65iQTaW7GBmfEn8
         2ei5F0ZaOUg5G6F+Remc+1343BbTGrNdXMLSQ=
Received: by 10.102.15.9 with SMTP id 9mr1293528muo.58.1261407184472;
        Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:53:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from snowcone (cpc1-sgyl18-0-0-cust846.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com [92.235.187.79])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g1sm17079926muf.14.2009.12.21.06.53.03
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5);
        Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:53:04 -0800 (PST)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:52:57 +0000
From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item for Paludis kdebuild-1 removal
Message-ID: <20091221145257.2bd1dae2@snowcone>
In-Reply-To: <20091216232819.2c7303c9@gentoo.org>
References: <20091214195425.1272e892@snowcone>
	<20091216232819.2c7303c9@gentoo.org>
X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.16.6; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org>
X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1;
 boundary="Sig_/v_9E3z+./Jrlw1+a1fjUdGN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Archives-Salt: ecac1cdb-438c-452a-a6f0-9755e3c4c239
X-Archives-Hash: 94ccf521562d558185bd9390bbd72247

--Sig_/v_9E3z+./Jrlw1+a1fjUdGN
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:28:19 +0100
Christian Faulhammer <fauli@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Since kdebuild-1 is to be removed from PMS immediately, it's going
> > to go from Paludis in the next release too. We need to warn users
> > about this, since they'll no longer be able to uninstall kdebuild-1
> > packages they have installed. Please review the following GLEP 42
> > news item for this:
>=20
>  As we cannot be sure that a former GenKDEsvn user still uses some of
> the KDE overlays, putting that news item in the main tree seems ok.

Plus some of the overlays that were using kdebuild-1 don't exist any
more...

> You have a committer for this?

Probably. There're enough Gentoo developers using Paludis that getting
things committed hasn't ever been an issue.

> > The Gentoo Council has decided that all mention of the kdebuild-1
> > EAPI is to be removed from the Package Manager Specification
> > immediately.
>=20
>  How many users will care what the PMS is?  And why is a cleaned up
> specification breaking your implementation?  Tell them that kdebuild-1
> has reached its end of life and support will phase out.

It's the sort of thing Paludis users do tend to care about. PMS gets
mentioned often enough in answers on the Paludis mailing list, bug
tracker and IRC channels as answers to questions, so if there are any
users who haven't heard of it, we're merely bringing forward their
inevitable encounter slightly.

--=20
Ciaran McCreesh

--Sig_/v_9E3z+./Jrlw1+a1fjUdGN
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux)

iEYEARECAAYFAksvi8sACgkQ96zL6DUtXhErpgCfV85qJ4HrFe+3l7Ea1bAX1XMT
YmwAoMrDXx7uXIBqeERfs1nj00yIOtRO
=UHNn
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--Sig_/v_9E3z+./Jrlw1+a1fjUdGN--