From: Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI={3,4} offset-prefix semantics mandatory?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:59:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091215185944.GA9600@gentoo.org> (raw)
With the current route where EAPI=3 will simply be EAPI=2 +
offset-prefix support, and EAPI=4 will be EAPI=3 + some other stuff, the
following question arose:
Should an ebuild using an EAPI that has offset-prefix support make the
use of that support mandatory or optional?
In other words, one can perfectly fine write an ebuild EAPI=3 that will
not work in an offset-prefix install, due to improper absence of EPREFIX,
ED and EROOT. Should we allow this formally, or not?
Why is this a problem? Simply because it can be done, but more because
EAPI=4 will introduce features a developer would like to use/rely on,
while she/he does not want, or is not able to write the ebuild in a
Prefix conforming way.
The pros for forcing ebuilds to be offset-prefix aware are:
- an ebuild having EAPI >= 3 (as it looks now) is supposed to work
for Prefix users
- hence also obviously is (supposed to be) checked for Prefix
- repoman might be able to check for obvious mistakes regarding
offset-prefix installations
The cons:
- all developers need to be aware of how Prefix works, and be able to
write ebuilds for it (I can post all the answers to the Prefix quiz)
- basically requires a Prefix to be setup to test
- it will stop developers to some degree to use higher EAPIs in the
worst case
The pros for allowing ebuilds that have an offset-prefix aware EAPI to
ignore the offset-prefix are:
- easy drop-in replacement for devs, basically the contra of all the
cons of the previous approach.
The cons:
- not immediately clear which ebuild is offset-prefix aware (could look
at Prefix keywords)
- needs proper rules; an ebuild that has offset-prefix support may not
have this support removed again (breaks Prefix users, how to enforce?)
- ebuilds may get offset-prefix support at a later stage, which may not
entirely be understood/noticed by (their maintaining) devs
Please voice your opinion and share your insights, if any.
--
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level
next reply other threads:[~2009-12-15 20:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-15 18:59 Fabian Groffen [this message]
2009-12-15 19:42 ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI={3,4} offset-prefix semantics mandatory? Ulrich Mueller
2009-12-16 6:29 ` Peter Volkov
2009-12-16 8:48 ` Fabian Groffen
2009-12-16 22:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-12-16 22:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jeremy Olexa
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