[gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

[gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

[William Hubbs]

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All,

I have been helping lately with the maintenance of openrc/baselayout-2.

I was just asked today on IRC about posting stabilization plans to the
list.

I don't have a stabilization plan, so, what I am going to do is post a
question to the list.

What still needs to be done before we can talk about stabilizing
openrc/baselayout-2?  I haven't seen a todo list posted anywhere, and
there are several bugs out there related to openrc.

This is not an attempt to rush the stabilization, I just want to find
out what still needs to be done.

Please add your comments to this thread so I can put together a todo
list.

Thanks,

-- 
William Hubbs
gentoo accessibility team lead
williamh@gentoo.org

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

[Jeremy Olexa]

William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
> 
> I have been helping lately with the maintenance of openrc/baselayout-2.
> 
> I was just asked today on IRC about posting stabilization plans to the
> list.
> 
> I don't have a stabilization plan, so, what I am going to do is post a
> question to the list.
> 
> What still needs to be done before we can talk about stabilizing
> openrc/baselayout-2?  I haven't seen a todo list posted anywhere, and
> there are several bugs out there related to openrc.
> 
> This is not an attempt to rush the stabilization, I just want to find
> out what still needs to be done.
> 
> Please add your comments to this thread so I can put together a todo
> list.
> 
> Thanks,
> 

A few thoughts:

It makes it hard to triage the openrc bugs when when are on openrc-0.5.3 
and there are openrc-0.2* bugs in the bug tracking system.

The openrc document will need to be combed through, inspected, etc.

A big change, so prepare a news item? I think Fauli already did this 
some time ago.

Can parallel init script startup be made the default yet? I've been 
running with it for months and never noticed a problem..

Thanks,
-Jeremy

[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc stabilization todo

[Christian Faulhammer]

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Hi,

Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org>:
> It makes it hard to triage the openrc bugs when when are on
> openrc-0.5.3 and there are openrc-0.2* bugs in the bug tracking
> system.

 Someone really knowing what he is doing is needed here.  And with some
time. Another thing needed is an init script for wpa_supplicant.

> A big change, so prepare a news item? I think Fauli already did this 
> some time ago.

 Yes, but I haven't found time and desire to triage the bugs as I
intended to.  The news item is in the archives of -dev.  Some of my
todo items like a newer stable eselect are done.

V-Li

-- 
Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
<URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

<URL:http://gentoo.faulhammer.org/>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

[Rémi Cardona]

Le 03/12/2009 02:22, Jeremy Olexa a écrit :
> Can parallel init script startup be made the default yet? I've been
> running with it for months and never noticed a problem..

I've been running it for more than a year on half a dozen boxes, without 
any issues as well.

+1 for making it the default.

Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: openrc stabilization todo

[William Hubbs]

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On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:16:30AM +0100, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org>:
> > It makes it hard to triage the openrc bugs when when are on
> > openrc-0.5.3 and there are openrc-0.2* bugs in the bug tracking
> > system.
> 
>  Someone really knowing what he is doing is needed here.  And with some
> time.

Well, I have some time, so I'll try to generate a list of bugs to start
with and break them down into bugs against openrc itself and bugs
against other packages (init scripts, etc)

> Another thing needed is an init script for wpa_supplicant.
 
 The init script for wpa_supplicant is done, but the maintainer chose
 not to rev bump.  http://bugs.gentoo.org/293443

> > A big change, so prepare a news item? I think Fauli already did this 
> > some time ago.
> 
>  Yes, but I haven't found time and desire to triage the bugs as I
> intended to.  The news item is in the archives of -dev.  Some of my
> todo items like a newer stable eselect are done.
 
 What other todo items do you have?

-- 
William Hubbs
gentoo accessibility team lead
williamh@gentoo.org

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[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc stabilization todo

[Christian Faulhammer]

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Hi,

William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>:
> >  Yes, but I haven't found time and desire to triage the bugs as I
> > intended to.  The news item is in the archives of -dev.  Some of my
> > todo items like a newer stable eselect are done.
>  
>  What other todo items do you have?

 Actually:

* Doc updates, http://bugs.gentoo.org/213988
* Deprecated OpenRC http://bugs.gentoo.org/251730

The rest is done.

V-Li

-- 
Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
<URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

<URL:http://gentoo.faulhammer.org/>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

[Maciej Mrozowski]

On Thursday 03 of December 2009 15:06:12 Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Le 03/12/2009 02:22, Jeremy Olexa a écrit :
> > Can parallel init script startup be made the default yet? I've been
> > running with it for months and never noticed a problem..
> 
> I've been running it for more than a year on half a dozen boxes, without
> any issues as well.
> 
> +1 for making it the default.

-1 from me (at least with <0.5.3, I'm following openrc Gentoo releases 
closely)
*Very* occasionally, bud deadlocks used to happen here. I'll report it for 
0.5.3 if I run into this again.

-- 
regards
MM

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Wednesday 02 December 2009 19:05:09 William Hubbs wrote:
> What still needs to be done before we can talk about stabilizing
> openrc/baselayout-2?  I haven't seen a todo list posted anywhere

http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_62f9916c9338ddecd4fd2dee96ef8aa3.xml
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_88b77ee4c6f1cd01cff9193eec47a784.xml
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

[Angelo Arrifano]

On Qui, 2009-12-03 at 15:06 +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Le 03/12/2009 02:22, Jeremy Olexa a écrit :
> > Can parallel init script startup be made the default yet? I've been
> > running with it for months and never noticed a problem..
> 
> I've been running it for more than a year on half a dozen boxes, without 
> any issues as well.
> 
> +1 for making it the default.
> 
> Thanks
> 

I just migrated my laptop to openrc-0.5.2-r2 along with baselayout-2.0.1
and sysvinit-2.87-r1 .
[as user] Everything went smoothly and without problems. I spotted two
things during boot though:

* Autoloaded 0 module(s)
*   device-mapper uses addon code which is deprecated
*   and may not be available in the future.

and

*   Adding routes
*     127.0.0.0/8 via 127.0.0.1...
* Adding static routes...
SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable

Looking at the routing table we have:

Destination Gateway   Genmask   Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
127.0.0.0   -         255.0.0.0 !     0      -   0   -
127.0.0.0   127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG    0      0   0   lo

Why do we need a reject route for 127.0.0.0? Packets with destination
127.0.0.0 going through interfaces other than lo aren't dropped anyway?
Does the loopback interface need a gateway set?

Regards,
-- 
Angelo Arrifano AKA MiKNiX
Gentoo Embedded/OMAP850 Developer
Linwizard Developer
http://www.gentoo.org/~miknix
http://miknix.homelinux.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Wednesday 02 December 2009 20:22:07 Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> Can parallel init script startup be made the default yet? I've been
> running with it for months and never noticed a problem..

not for stable.  no point in proactively shooting our conservative users in 
the face.  let's shoot the unstable ricers first.
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

[Rémi Cardona]

Le 04/12/2009 11:41, Mike Frysinger a écrit :
> On Wednesday 02 December 2009 20:22:07 Jeremy Olexa wrote:
>> Can parallel init script startup be made the default yet? I've been
>> running with it for months and never noticed a problem..
>
> not for stable.  no point in proactively shooting our conservative users in
> the face.  let's shoot the unstable ricers first.
> -mike

Sounds like a good first step. +1 from me.

Rémi