From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] mtime preservation
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:35:16 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091126053516.GA6082@hrair> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B0E11A3.5020506@gentoo.org>
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:26:59PM -0800, Zac Medico wrote:
> Brian Harring wrote:
> > This discussion in generall is daft. No package can rely on
> > nanonsecond resolution for installation because the most common FS out
> > there (ext3) does *second* level resolution only. As such, I can
> > pretty much gurantee there is *zero* packages out there that require
> > nanosecond resolution for installation.
>
> Your "guarantee" is filesystem-specific. However, if we can
> establish that all known packages with timestamp preservation
> requirements do their timestamp comparisons with 1-second
> granularity, then we'll have a much safer (filesystem-independent)
> assumption.
I've no complaints with mandating that ebuilds can rely on second
level resolution- it's a valid gurantee as far as I'm concerned.
Further any fs that can't offer it involves the user doing something
seriously wonky, thus their problem if the ebuild horks.
If/when the major filesystems out there all do NS level resolution,
and are in common deployment, I'd have no arguement extending the
spec to mandating NS level resolution. I've serious problems w/
mandating NS resolution in PMS prior to that however.
~harring
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2009-11-23 18:49 ` [gentoo-dev] mtime preservation Denis Dupeyron
2009-11-23 20:39 ` Zac Medico
2009-11-23 23:19 ` Brian Harring
2009-11-24 14:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-24 22:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26 1:28 ` Brian Harring
2009-11-26 12:41 ` David Leverton
2009-11-26 13:21 ` Brian Harring
2009-11-26 18:22 ` David Leverton
2009-11-26 15:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-25 21:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Denis Dupeyron
2009-11-25 21:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-25 21:52 ` Duncan
2009-11-25 22:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-25 22:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-26 0:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26 0:49 ` Zac Medico
2009-11-26 1:14 ` Brian Harring
2009-11-26 5:26 ` Zac Medico
2009-11-26 5:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-26 5:35 ` Brian Harring [this message]
2009-11-26 5:30 ` Duncan
2009-11-26 12:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-11-26 12:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-26 21:55 ` Zac Medico
2009-11-26 13:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2009-11-26 15:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26 7:59 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-26 9:07 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-26 9:54 ` Łukasz Michalik
2009-11-26 11:47 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-26 15:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26 15:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26 7:51 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-26 5:07 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-26 5:04 ` Duncan
2009-11-28 20:57 ` Peter Hjalmarsson
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