From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDQ7Z-0006lR-1j for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:13:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC2CAE09B8; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.144]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF361E09B8 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so54962eyh.40 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:13:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=867p6/yU/mT6sl5O/mfATL9HcFYwV7hgtBlWk6i4nz4=; b=DgjiaWd7HP3gEZL7C7OyScBiK3+UXS92JfGXYASZlDxYqqRskg2qk3iecmliKHLeJu 5iErwiSsZvG84LHE/sjy6tM60DMBBuKCExodGe7aQADUJSCXjcZXD+FYFeVNouGER4tM kbaaUhWugpgjDtE9eBhNsyxdbcUtjNxqbQlhY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=tfzJ+Q/raGX4oyhtk+p0KlKEvtwo314EmZmK+4/3mIYEyap/dvfI7TW5wELapD+pTu dIOx2wK1betnn05sOlsHrQDI2Z2IIBJOXBPlz77LVBkLb0gocO0de+AIPlnEov+ip0ta KFqnr98xv4XENqM6DN9/mK85sHaCmz1L3XME0= Received: by 10.213.24.1 with SMTP id t1mr3030448ebb.64.1259187213156; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm3744038eyf.6.2009.11.25.14.13.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:13:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:13:27 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mtime preservation Message-ID: <20091125221327.324e11fb@snowcone> In-Reply-To: References: <19184.25176.380022.392451@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20091108191439.3fcee79d@snowcone> <7c612fc60911090718y144319f5lc9827a5e2e153c2@mail.gmail.com> <20091109153429.502e272f@snowcone> <19193.4389.637969.727075@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20091119221248.539eedd9@snowmobile> <7c612fc60911191614h5e37c849y50ad217a828fa744@mail.gmail.com> <20091120001820.7274bdf7@snowmobile> <4B07362D.2010108@gentoo.org> <7c612fc60911231049n4a51ddb0u30ae72d8ed93cdec@mail.gmail.com> <7c612fc60911251313i705a182as6cf50402c7829beb@mail.gmail.com> <20091125212718.5deb42f8@snowcone> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.16.6; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/9HtY6f/.hH=9ry0YNcCLz+/"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: d127c953-9d38-4a42-a064-a868b4f292e7 X-Archives-Hash: 0b3dc22a5f35dbbeb0da9cb9f4fe1274 --Sig_/9HtY6f/.hH=9ry0YNcCLz+/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > That's a great explanation (thanks, I now know the details to the > degree I'd be interested), but what was asked for was examples of > breakage, aka actual bugs. Why? You can easily look and see that it's broken. Examples will merely be dismissed as one-off cases that can be worked around, or as relying upon a string of coincidences that will "obviously" never really happen, right up until they do, at which point they'll be dismissed with a WORKSFORME. What you have is a proof that it's broken, which is far better than an example. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/9HtY6f/.hH=9ry0YNcCLz+/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksNrAoACgkQ96zL6DUtXhHqDACgi5WhlVu29jenKRY+Mc9zxZa+ +XUAnAjfO+M+u1ArThBOB+UDhqznjQkd =kwlG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/9HtY6f/.hH=9ry0YNcCLz+/--