From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N8Vf8-0000VE-2F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:08:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38B9FE0A8E; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-out.m-online.net (mail-out.m-online.net [212.18.0.10]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3938E0A8E for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail01.m-online.net (mail.m-online.net [192.168.3.149]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258C21C00487; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:08:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.8.164]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3CC902BD; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:08:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.3.149]) by localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.8.164]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UOSaOfJ2gXQO; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:08:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from gauss.x.fun (ppp-88-217-101-248.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.101.248]) by mail.nefkom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:08:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gauss.x.fun (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A22B24EF07; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:08:13 +0100 (CET) From: Matthias Schwarzott To: Mart Raudsepp Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] About udev-145: new features / extras and kernel requirements Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:08:12 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <200908301611.53087.zzam@gentoo.org> <1257784554.16908.3.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1257784554.16908.3.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200911121008.12795.zzam@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 2bbd9e88-643a-40ab-a35e-c139ac0867d2 X-Archives-Hash: 7f8213de7407d8c471ddebc254dcf58a On Montag, 9. November 2009, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 16:11 +0200, Matthias Schwarzott wrote: > > Hi there! > > A late hello, > > > Second point: udev-145 bundles a lot of new extras, but they can only be > > enabled/disabled all or nothing. > > > > These extras are: > > * udev-acl: Apply consolekit permissions to devices for users (audio, > > video, joysticks, scanner, cameras, ...) > > * usb-db: Provide udev-rules with device names of pci and usb devices > > * hid2hci: Special utility to fix resume of some hid devices > > * keymap: Auto-configure model specific keys found on many laptops > > ("brightness up", "next song", "www browser", or "suspend") > > * modem-modeswitch: Switch modems that provide virtual cd-drive with > > drivers to modem mode > > I think the thread hasn't seen an answer to the question of when these > are actually used or useful, as asked in another subthread as well. > > > * gudev: glib/gobject support for libudev > > Would it be possible to have this in a separate package? Of course then > with a temporary compatibility PDEPEND on it with udev[extras] until > packages needing gudev migrate over. The question is: DO we really need to split udev that upstream bundled into one tarball? > And what of the above listed other things besides core udev does gudev > require or potentially use? To be answered by someone else, I do not need these yet. Matthias