From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N7D7x-0000Io-3a for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:08:41 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3609E0843; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dev.gentooexperimental.org (dev.gentooexperimental.org [81.93.240.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8260BE0843 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localnet (xdsl-78-34-179-70.netcologne.de [78.34.179.70]) by dev.gentooexperimental.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46E0769FC1 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:08:38 +0100 (CET) From: Patrick Lauer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:08:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.90 (Linux/2.6.30-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.3.74; x86_64; ; ) References: <200911081910.35133.patrick@gentoo.org> <200911081324.47874.vapier@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200911081324.47874.vapier@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200911082008.35448.patrick@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 33075ad6-2960-43c1-94d0-c65ed7737356 X-Archives-Hash: d6586c2eddbcc9f3c9a013251425f3ca On Sunday 08 November 2009 19:24:47 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 08 November 2009 13:10:34 Patrick Lauer wrote: > > On Sunday 08 November 2009 18:37:10 Peter Volkov wrote: > > > =D0=92 =D0=92=D1=81=D0=BA, 08/11/2009 =D0=B2 16:06 +0100, Patrick Lau= er =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > > > And because I'm a lazy > > > > > > > > I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details and ju= st > > > > fix it instead > > > > > > Do you mean that whatever you commit to the tree is not your > > > responsibility? Sorry but it's your job. > > > > I make things work. Cosmetics are quite low on my list of priorities. > > Feel free to fix such things. > > All "my" packages are free for all to bump, fix and extend, as long as > > whoever touched it is willing to fix any issues that happen from it. >=20 > using this definition of "correct" (the package installs w/out failure and > it seems to work), there is a lot of crap that could be in the tree. th= at > doesnt mean the ebuild should be in the tree. this kind of work and > opinion belongs in sunrise, not the main tree. I hope you realize what percentage of packages are completely unmaintained = or=20 only tangentially maintained. By that reasoning we better cut out everythin= g=20 apart from the base system, xorg, kde and gnome. Oh, and python. (If I miss= ed=20 anyone here, please don't take this personal. It's a reductio ad absurdum I= 'm=20 doing here, so it better be absurd!) If you haven't noticed (here's a really hilarious one!) ... We currently do not have anyone seriously maintaining all the perl bits.=20 There's, uhm, ... err ... there used to be Tove, who did an awesome job. I took over benchmark and forensics herd because they were empty, not becau= se=20 I care about those packages. sgml and ha-cluster herds are quite vacant as far as I can tell. bugwranglers are understaffed and can barely keep up with the current flood= =20 from our motivated and skillfull bug-finding users. So maybe now you understand my mentality of just fixing whatever bugs I=20 encounter. I don't care at all about your idealistic views of how we were t= o=20 do things if everything worked. Reality doesn't tolerate it well. Bugs happ= en,=20 and we better start fixing them. > we dont have a QA team to > fix installed packages; they're here to maintain the *quality* of the > tree. That's good. So start fixing stuff. Maybe take over the empty herds until y= ou=20 manage to recruit some replacements. If you feel you have too much time you could search on bugzilla for "patch"= =20 and start fixing those bugs. "Bump" is also a funny search.=20 Or if you don't know what else to do, there's this nice "Bug Wranglers" sea= rch=20 at the bottom of the bugzilla pages. Click on it and get the amount of bugs= in=20 the bugwrangler queue under 100 if you can! Once you've done that for 3 months we can renegotiate cosmetic bugs and QA. Kthxbai, Patrick