From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5Ld9-0001Kr-5Y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:49:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDAF6E08EF; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dev.gentooexperimental.org (dev.gentooexperimental.org [81.93.240.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95B4E08EF for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localnet (xdsl-78-34-174-57.netcologne.de [78.34.174.57]) by dev.gentooexperimental.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113BA764A78 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:49:09 +0100 (CET) From: Patrick Lauer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse? Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:48:03 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.90 (Linux/2.6.30-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.3.73; x86_64; ; ) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200911031648.04090.patrick@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: e41d0b1e-44f2-4fd6-ab2c-11e7290e217e X-Archives-Hash: acd92f74c3de514b602fcc85b62a1f40 Hi there, a while ago Thilo Bangert spent quite some time on filing lots of bugs. While I appreciate such QA efforts I don't agree with those bugs at all. All of these bugs were for the use of the FEATURES variable in ebuilds, which is a very convenient thing to work around issues. For example known failures with FEATURE="distcc" or funky things like test failures with FEATURES="userpriv" and so on. All other methods of expressing that are much more verbose and inherently sucky. One example of such a bug is https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278960 for those too lazy to search. To quote: "FEATURES is a portage specific package manager configuration variable not specified in PMS and cannot reliably be used in ebuilds or eclasses." Well then, I suggest we finally start documenting reality and fix PMS. The use of the FEATURES variable, while it has been there for ... uhm ... as long as I can think back, actually :), should not be randomly suppressed. So ... what's your opinion? Should we do things as they are correct, or as they are specified in PMS? ( /me points at bash 3.0 ) Take care, Patrick