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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 06:43:52PM +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote:
> William Hubbs schrieb:
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:07:08PM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote:
> >> R??mi Cardona wrote:
> >>> Le 26/10/2009 22:58, Richard Freeman a ??crit :
> >>>> Gentoo is about choice.
> >>> No it isn't. Gentoo is about empowering users, giving them the abilit=
y=20
> >>> and tools to _change_ the distro to _their_ needs.
> >>>
> >>> Gentoo does _not_ cater to all the possible needs.
> >>>
> >>> This is somewhat off-topic, but it irks me every time I see/hear it, =
so=20
> >>> there.
> >> Well, I'm not sure I see any contradiction. When people say that gent=
oo=20
> >> is about choice, it means that we should give the end-user flexibility=
=20
> >> whenever it is feasible. Of course that doesn't mean that there shoul=
d=20
> >> be a lunar-lander-in-a-box use flag. However, if KDE 4.2 includes a=
=20
> >> lunar lander module we should in fact add such a flag for the benefit =
of=20
> >> those of us who don't own space programs.
> >=20
> > Agreed. However, I think the discussion is around whether we should en=
able
> > the lunar-lander-in-a-box use flag by default and where it should be
> > enabled by us if we do enable it.
> >=20
> > Since profiles override IUSE defaults, if we enable the flag in the
> > profiles, this means that it will be enabled for all packages that have
> > the use flag, regardless of whether they are KDE related, unless the
> > user disables the flag in make.conf or package.use.
> >=20
> > On the other hand, if we enable it with IUSE defaults at the
> > package level, it lets the user decide whether or not they want it to be
> > enabled for their entire system by editing make.conf.
>=20
> Are you sure about this part? Afaik IUSE defaults overrides make.conf, yo=
u will have to explicitly
> add an entry to package.use for every package, where it is enabled per IU=
SE default.
I just tested this, and make.conf overrides iuse defaults. To verify
this for yourself, pick a package with an iuse default turning on a
flag, then turn off the flag in make.conf and check what would happen if
you emerged the package.
package.use overrides for a single package, but make.conf overrides for
all of your system.
--=20
William Hubbs
gentoo accessibility team lead
williamh@gentoo.org
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