From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org)
	by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60)
	(envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-38197-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>)
	id 1N1hm4-0001b1-Ie
	for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:39:20 +0000
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D56ACE091E;
	Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:39:18 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.148])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698E9E091D;
	Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:39:18 +0000 (UTC)
Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so1832012eyh.40
        for <multiple recipients>; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:39:17 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
        h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date
         :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:cc:disposition-notification-to
         :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id;
        bh=cYQUBz+z3xDX0uXLuMyEeydByGMNvRnJ3Z3owJ1Mp6I=;
        b=Znq7wgOiSTz/dPZPaH9zzKSUNOqrLPjCFJEiuNnK+oaoscJ5sgJKmG0bkzCXmwxHoD
         DJnsFp079dU3zLO8WuEMXsUbNgmNCcpYk7OhEVC3ytPN+xojqgYHgkAHdpclvq8V+S2s
         WLLZISUuXdMgutijBp4pDm0ars2uJ7EOBEYg0=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
        d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
        h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:cc
         :disposition-notification-to:mime-version:content-type
         :content-transfer-encoding:message-id;
        b=A1XIvLhU12p/sEh9xII85CkUwZPY+qD/wgm323KTa8q8ENuDBeR5Nf/sSJkKwGAnkj
         QPe63bFFEGYo4negYo6bJB8wTzKHS7QWEGkSvjKy7VYpPWS4564HhtdvI6jrSvo7qwbs
         KGGZj8QclPjHgjTqmLZLQeiAUkNXncyFxUJmM=
Received: by 10.216.90.195 with SMTP id e45mr89458wef.189.1256395157816;
        Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:39:17 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from lebrodyl.localnet (aeju233.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [79.186.254.233])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm10811872gve.17.2009.10.24.07.39.16
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5);
        Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:39:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Maciej Mrozowski <reavertm@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:39:06 +0200
User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/2.6.30-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.3.2; x86_64; ; )
References: <200910241542.17701.reavertm@gmail.com> <4AE30863.1060007@gentoo.org>
In-Reply-To: <4AE30863.1060007@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org>
X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed;
  boundary="nextPart3209075.VYb5ugu3h3";
  protocol="application/pgp-signature";
  micalg=pgp-sha1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: <200910241639.06319.reavertm@gmail.com>
X-Archives-Salt: 0c79482a-d004-48b0-a426-f15650b6df78
X-Archives-Hash: 8689c189426b2db6c528d13c69dcbe4e

--nextPart3209075.VYb5ugu3h3
Content-Type: Text/Plain;
  charset="windows-1250"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday 24 of October 2009 16:00:03 Jeremy Olexa wrote:

> Just so it is clear and there aren't any questions in the future. The
> XFCE team maintains a set of recommended global use flags in our docs[1]
> (maintained by Josh (nightmorph)). So, whatever direction this ends up,
> xfce will not be going down that same road.

Well, if XFCE 'satisfying use deps' USE flags are not excessive, I think th=
ey=20
could stay in desktop (parent) profile of course as desktop profile is mean=
t=20
for general use desktop. This would address some parts of Nirbheek's concer=
n.

> Additionally, One cool thing about Gentoo is that you *can* have more
> than one DE installed. We don't have things like KGentoo =3DP I hope this
> profile thing doesn't make it harder for end users to use GNOME and KDE
> at the same time.

That's the 'edge' case we encounter. Of course splitting desktop profile=20
*will* make it harder for them to have GNOME and KDE at the same time. But,=
 to=20
be clear, we're talking here mainly about default USE flags (not gnome-base=
/*=20
entries in package.mask in KDE subprofile... hmm, jmbsvicetto? worth=20
considering... ;) )
Splitting profiles is to provide out of the box desktop specific solutions=
=20
(because that's what majority uses afaik, though I don't have any poll to b=
ack=20
my words), not to prevent anyone from mixing things - those may just need t=
he=20
same package.use/make.conf effort to set it up (mainly to satisfy USE deps,=
 as=20
one can put recommended USE flags in +EAPI-1 IUSE in desktop environment=20
ebuilds after all).

=2D-=20
regards
MM

--nextPart3209075.VYb5ugu3h3
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc 
Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux)

iEYEABECAAYFAkrjEYoACgkQFuHa/bHpVdvIfwCZAdCo+chRKdSgC+mOR2FZqZOY
A/sAniq6lQtdrci94tUFv41ekX33w+2s
=Y+Tq
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--nextPart3209075.VYb5ugu3h3--