[gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

[gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

[Samuli Suominen]

For http://bugs.gentoo.org/287976, A news item:

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Title: Usage of default-linux as profile is obsolete
Author: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2009-10-21
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Profile: default-linux

The profiles in default-linux/ have been deprecated for a while now, and
you have been seeing a message of profile switching when using emerge.

They will be entirely removed 2009-12-01. This is your last warning to
switch into new profiles using:

# eselect profile list
# eselect profile set <target>

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Would this work?

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

[Samuli Suominen]

Samuli Suominen wrote:
> For http://bugs.gentoo.org/287976, A news item:
> Would this work?

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Title: Usage of default-linux as profile is obsolete
Author: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2009-10-21
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Profile: default-linux

The profiles in default-linux/ have been deprecated for a while now, and
you have been seeing a message of profile switching when using emerge.

They will be entirely removed 2009-12-01. This is your last warning to
switch into new profiles using:

# eselect profile list
# eselect profile set <target>

If you don't follow this message, the emerge will simply stop working
until you do.

This change was made to ease maintenance.

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Added some remarks from antarus.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

[Petteri Räty]

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Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> For http://bugs.gentoo.org/287976, A news item:
>> Would this work?
> 

Does this mean that you haven't tested it? If it's tested with the
oldest Portage version that people are expected to be using, then fine
by me. I don't think this bug comes to play here as there's only one
restriction so on that account should be safe:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277619

Regards,
Petteri


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

[Alec Warner]

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> For http://bugs.gentoo.org/287976, A news item:
>> Would this work?
>
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>
> Title: Usage of default-linux as profile is obsolete
> Author: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> Posted: 2009-10-21
> Revision: 1
> News-Item-Format: 1.0
> Display-If-Profile: default-linux
>
> The profiles in default-linux/ have been deprecated for a while now, and
> you have been seeing a message of profile switching when using emerge.

The profiles in default-linux/ have been deprecated for six weeks.
Users using these profiles are expected to migrate to a new profile
before 2009-12-01, at which point the default-linux/ profiles will be
removed.  The new profiles contain up to date configurations and were
adopted because they were easier to maintain.  Users can switch to a
new profile using eselect:

>
> # eselect profile list
> # eselect profile set <target>
>
> If you don't follow this message, the emerge will simply stop working
> until you do.

If a machine is not migrated to a new valid profile then emerge will
have very limited functionality.

>
> This change was made to ease maintenance.

I reworded this and moved it near the top.

>
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>
> Added some remarks from antarus.
>
>

I'm trying to avoid using 'you' in the announcement which is why all
the rewording.

-A

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

[Samuli Suominen]

Alec Warner wrote:
> I'm trying to avoid using 'you' in the announcement which is why all
> the rewording.

Thanks, looks better.

Title: Using default-linux profile is now obsolete
Author: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2009-10-21
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Profile: default-linux

The profiles in default-linux/ have been deprecated for six weeks.
Users using these profiles are expected to migrate to a new profile
before 2009-12-01, at which point the default-linux/ profiles will be
removed.  The new profiles contain up to date configurations and were
adopted because they were easier to maintain.  Users can switch to a
new profile using eselect:

# eselect profile list
# eselect profile set <target>

If a machine is not migrated to a new valid profile then emerge will
have very limited functionality.

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

[Duncan]

Samuli Suominen posted on Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:00:43 +0300 as excerpted:

> If a machine is not migrated to a new valid profile then emerge will
> have very limited functionality.

If a machine is not migrated to a new valid profile before the deprecated 
profiles are removed, emerge will have very limited functionality until 
the migration is done.

Alternatively:

If a machine is not migrated to a new valid profile before 2009-12-01,
...

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

[Samuli Suominen]

Duncan wrote:
> Samuli Suominen posted on Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:00:43 +0300 as excerpted:
> 
>> If a machine is not migrated to a new valid profile then emerge will
>> have very limited functionality.
> 
> If a machine is not migrated to a new valid profile before the deprecated 
> profiles are removed, emerge will have very limited functionality until 
> the migration is done.
> 
> Alternatively:
> 
> If a machine is not migrated to a new valid profile before 2009-12-01,
> ...
> 

Fine by me. Thanks.

I've tested this one working, had to add multiple Display-If-Profiles
because the GLEP and Portage doesn't support having just
"default-linux". Draft:

Title: Using default-linux profile is now obsolete
Author: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2009-10-21
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Profile: default-linux/alpha
Display-If-Profile: default-linux/amd64
Display-If-Profile: default-linux/arm
Display-If-Profile: default-linux/ia64
Display-If-Profile: default-linux/m68k
Display-If-Profile: default-linux/s390
Display-If-Profile: default-linux/sh
Display-If-Profile: default-linux/sparc
Display-If-Profile: default-linux/x86

The profiles in default-linux/ have been deprecated for six weeks.
Users using these profiles are expected to migrate to a new profile
before 2009-12-01, at which point the default-linux/ profiles will be
removed.  The new profiles contain up to date configurations and were
adopted because they were easier to maintain.  Users can switch to a
new profile using eselect:

# eselect profile list
# eselect profile set <target>

If a machine is not migrated to a new valid profile before the
deprecated profiles are removed, emerge will have very limited
functionality until the migration is done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

[Donnie Berkholz]

On 10:52 Wed 21 Oct     , Alec Warner wrote:
> I'm trying to avoid using 'you' in the announcement which is why all
> the rewording.

I encourage informal language and speaking directly to the users. Use of 
"you" and "we" helps us to better connect with users through the 
documentation. It also has the nice benefit of avoiding stilted 
formalities and awkwardness like "one should do this..." or trying to 
use "people should" or "users should".

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com