From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MxjJM-0004J0-1M for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:29:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0600CE076E; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from superwebrack5.gr (unknown [89.234.53.111]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EE4E076E for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29983 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2009 18:20:14 +0300 Received: from ppp-94-67-50-146.home.otenet.gr (HELO eternity.localnet) (94.67.50.146) by ns1.superwebrack5.g with SMTP; 13 Oct 2009 18:20:13 +0300 From: Markos Chandras To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:23:32 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (Linux/2.6.31-gentoo-r2-dark-jedi; KDE/4.3.1; x86_64; ; ) References: <200910091957.09193.zzam@gentoo.org> <8b4c83ad0910100622u502a69bdy6a9aaca18304cd48@mail.gmail.com> <200910102230.07124.zzam@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200910102230.07124.zzam@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1289141.BPDvkA3UYh"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910131823.39417.hwoarang@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 76dc8f7b-2935-42c1-9621-4730e492a097 X-Archives-Hash: 384da5232a1613a361a988d33df11bfd --nextPart1289141.BPDvkA3UYh Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday 10 October 2009 23:30:05 Matthias Schwarzott wrote: > On Samstag, 10. Oktober 2009, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Alin N=C4=83stac w= rote: > > > On 10/9/09 7:57 PM, Matthias Schwarzott wrote: > > >> * does new scripts already can do all that was possible with net.* ? > > > > > > No. PPP is not compatible with the new scripts. > > > > Major regression. It never pays to drop surprises on people like this. > > I *strongly* suggest masking openrc-0.5.1 until the documentation is > > updated and a news file is sent. >=20 > Why do you suggest masking it immediately? > Emerging it without changing any use-flags, has oldnet enabled by default, > so user gets exactly the same net init-scripts as with openrc-0.4 before, > so where is the regression that needs to be masked? > One can still use the same stuff and nobody is forced to transition to the > new network script. >=20 > Regards > Matthias >=20 I agree with Nirbheek. You should always provide an updated documentation (= =20 and a news item if necessary ) when you release a new major update of such= =20 core packages. I would like to see new openrc masked until the documentatio= n=20 is ready with full details about the transition to the new network init=20 script. If you don't provide such documentation in time, you will fail to make user= s=20 switch to new init script in the near future, since everybody will forget=20 about this and will use the 'oldnet' use flag anyway. The sooner you will explain them how to migrate, the better=20 results/feedback/updated systems you will get just my 2cc :) =2D-=20 Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer [KDE/Qt/Sound/Sunrise] Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org --nextPart1289141.BPDvkA3UYh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkrUm3sACgkQ9/cejkQaxBB3bgCfaF776mzANX7u+HD0o3mt+vTE BjUAnA88f0+XKLKbkq0K/CaTTdQNHN1N =H1Re -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1289141.BPDvkA3UYh--