From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MsRCr-0002WM-Sx for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:08:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E49D2E0807; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39DEE0807 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gentoo.org (68-115-113-209.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com [68.115.113.209]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C44677DA for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:08:52 -0500 From: Donnie Berkholz To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future Message-ID: <20090929010852.GC8424@comet> References: <4AAAD714.1010107@hartwork.org> <20090911202402.19ae0319@gentoo.org> <4AAB90E6.40604@hartwork.org> <20090913204638.7e29eb2b@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090913204638.7e29eb2b@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 00c6f921-f59a-4fe8-b479-fdae5aa87690 X-Archives-Hash: c8b232a66918ee02680c205092aef37d On 20:46 Sun 13 Sep , Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:15:34 +0200 > Sebastian Pipping wrote: > > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > Personally I don't see how gaming the system helps us in any way. > > > > I was afraid it could be read in such a way. Handing out fake version > > numbers would be much easier, wouldn't it? I want every single package > > int he tree to be stable, up to date and polished. But as our resources > > are limited let's focus on packages that are most important first. > > That's actually what I meant by gaming the system. We could keep those > particular packages up to the minute, but it wouldn't reflect the state of > our distro as a whole. It's a false metric and I don't see the advantage in > pandering to it. It's much more important that our packages actually work > together than have the highest numbers. At the same time, we also want to ensure that any badly out-of-date packages on there aren't outliers that reflect poorly on our actual average status. And frankly, having any way to monitor popular yet outdated packages is a good thing. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com